If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…
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#222If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…
> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…
I do what you suggest in step (3), and never connect it the TV to a network, but it's still concerning.
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This. When I was in California I tried to find a 4k TV that was "dumb". It was impossible.
Instead of a dumb TV you can get a public/info/business display and add an external tuner or video source if needed. Finding one that supports HDR can get a bit tricky though since that's not their major selling point, but they do exist.
[1] https://www.cdw.ca/product/samsung-hg55nj670uf-670-series-55...
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Ugh are you telling me that these TVs are aggressively trying to find and connect to unsecured Wi-Fi to upload data I don’t want them to have over an unsecure connection I don’t control? Gross.
Time for some HN user to break one of these TVs open and physically remove the antenna or wifi card.
I wrote a blog post about pulling the WiFi card out of my TCL R625, which should be pretty similar to the process for most other smart TVs: https://spencermichaels.net/posts/2020-03-16-smart-tv-loboto...
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#226Samsung owner here. I use an Apple TV so I don't have to use the smart features of the TV and see ads, which I find offensive. But I'd rather reward a competitor for my next TV. Which brands don't do this?
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#227I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…
Users of TVs, wow. I remember when they were not more difficult to use than a door bell. I'm always more convinced that I'll end up with a monitor, a Raspberry, a stereo speaker and possibly a DVBT decoder.
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#228Sammsung can't even fix crippling a problem like not being able to adjust settings ( https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/unable-to-move-up-and... ) -- they do not care about customers -- that's a fact. Also who the hell is saying TVs would be more expensive without ads? What a load of BS -- perhaps for small companies starting out, but Samsung? LOL I was on the fence about getting their frame TV, this pretty much…
My Samsung TV has 10,500 blocked connections from my PiHole in the last 24 hours and the TV is off most of the day.
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It’s getting harder and harder to. I ended up buying a projector and a screen, large TVs are pretty much all infected with this kind of “smart os” and I don’t want a tv constantly asking to be connected to the internet so it can download adware.
The term you're looking for is "Commercial Signage" or "Large-Format Displays" [1] This is of course US based but there are other vendors for North America, and I'm sure for EuroAsia and beyond. You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer, and the fact there's no wireless or smart junk. [1] https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-...
75" 4k for $850 (consumer) vs $3500 (business).
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-7-series-led-4...
https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-qh75r-qhr-series-75-led-...
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There's reports of some models connecting to any open wifi networks, which would include your neighbours. And it's only a matter of time until they come with built-in sim cards
Recent model toyota vehicles come with a "telematics" unit with a built-in SIM card that sends GPS data, driving data, video from the front camera, etc. to Toyota and the "agreement" in the manual says they can do ~whatever they want with it. If you power down the telematics module (by removing the fuse), the carplay microphone doesn't work (because the microphone runs through the telematics module). If you remove or…