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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by arjun1296 »

throwaway4good wrote: post #118

Also surpression in Kashmir seems to have escalated over the past year with removal of local governance and blockade of internet access. It is not a good combination: Escalating human rights abuses, an economy in freefall, pandemic, border skirmishes with China, nationalism, crackdown on ethnic minorities ...

>Also surpression in Kashmir seems to have escalated over the past year with removal of local governance

Seriously. . .Are you joking?

The likes of Mufti and Abdullahs have not let the local body election happen for over decades. It took BJP govt in the center to do that.

Mufti and Abdullah contested state election and general assembly showing the local people that democracy is working. And at the same time, they mis-used Art.370 to not let local body election happen in kashmir. They used Art.370 to deny fundamental rights of minorities and used it to communalize the local bureaucracy and even started issuing land and permits to rohingyas who are not even indian citizens.

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Post by mcguire »

arjun1296 wrote: post #217
Chris2048 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok. Got any examples of woke western publications expressing the opinion that Hindus/idol-worshippers are "beastly and low-life"?

https://qz.com/india/948392/why-did-winston-churchill-hate-t... http://ramachandraguha.in/archives/%E2%80%98a-beastly-people... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Winston_Church...

Winston Churchill?

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Post by gruez »

rmrfrmrf wrote: post #205
f154hfds wrote: post #202

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Uhh what? How is the US buying goods/services from India infringing on their sovereignty?

Shipping India's able-bodied workforce to the US and driving the rest of the local economy with low-wage factory jobs absolutely hampers a country's ability to govern and develop itself. The threat of pulling manufacturing out of a country becomes too great and forces governments to bend to the will of foreign investment.

>Shipping India's able-bodied workforce to the US [...]

I wonder why the blame is on the US or American companies, which offer better working conditions and pay, rather than Indian companies for not being competitive enough, or the expats for "defecting" from their home country.

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Post by baud147258 »

oytis wrote: post #170
sandworm101 wrote: post #155

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>> which advocates stratification of society based on the birth Not a unique to Indian nationalism. American nationalism is very similar. See the "birther" movement. Or the president's push to withdraw birth right citizenship, a concept that would deny far more than just education. Or the references to "anchor babies". The location of one's birthplace, and the birthplace of one's parents, is of fundamental importance…

Birthright citizenship is pretty unique to America though. Nowhere in Europe you would find such a thing, although most people won't count Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden etc. as human right violators.

Maybe I missed something or forgot how citizenship works here in France (since I learned how it is acquired as a student), but birthright citizenship seems pretty similar to what we have here

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Post by baud147258 »

sumedh wrote: post #65
swarnie_ wrote: post #40

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A good chunk of the world has shifted that way since 2000, its actually baffling.

Maybe because social media helps demagogues spread their message?

I don't think demagogues ever needed social media to spread their messages

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Post by sbmthakur »

srean wrote: post #192
sbmthakur wrote: post #79

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It's been several decades that Kashmir has a crippled democracy, no thanks to the insurgency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Jammu_and_Kashmi...

Funnily it still manages to come out better compared to many other states were insurgency is not an egregious problem.

Yes, I think we can attribute some of that to Sheikh Abdullah's reforms.

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Chris2048 wrote: post #178
arjun1296 wrote: post #172

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Globally, Hindus are a minority. So whether its a liberal or conservative foreigner(Christian or Muslim), to them Muslims are usually a minority. And foreigners are easily susceptible to believe the claims of Muslims being a minority without even checking the realities. Tthey almost always fail to understand that it is Hindus who is the real minority in Jammu and Kashmir. Morevoer, Christians and Muslims are of Abhra…

> Idol-worshippers like Hindus are considered beastly and low-life. So don't expect foreigners.. How do you "check the realities" on these claims about foreigners?

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Post by [deleted] »

srean wrote: post #203
nilsocket wrote: post #32

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An iota of evidence?

Afzal Guru was hanged for much less. Letting article 370 reform go unchallenged would be one example. It was an opportunistic edge case that allowed the federal body to decide on a state matter because the state government was temporarily missing and a caretaker government was in charge. Court chose to look the other way. One can arguesuch opportunism is legal as far as the letter of the law is concerned. It is commo…

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Post by C1sc0cat »

fetbaffe wrote: post #216
C1sc0cat wrote: post #214

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Nativists campaigned against incomers from Europe

So basically you never become a native regardless how many generations you stay in a country, thus nationalism is valid point of view.

I didn't say that :-)

I was commenting on the use of nativism by a politician whose grandfather was an immigrant.

Though over time some groups formerly seen as undesirables become honoury whites Irish German Catholics etc.

It wasn't that long ago that having a catholic president Kennedy was seen as problematic

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Post by [deleted] »

arjun1296 wrote: post #217
Chris2048 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok. Got any examples of woke western publications expressing the opinion that Hindus/idol-worshippers are "beastly and low-life"?

https://qz.com/india/948392/why-did-winston-churchill-hate-t... http://ramachandraguha.in/archives/%E2%80%98a-beastly-people... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Winston_Church...

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