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Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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In a world full of shady companies, I would much rather bacl companies like FB than companies like TikTok backed by the Chinese government.

Even with all the flaws that the US government and various US companies have, they're so much better in terms of transparency and regulation than their chinese counterparts.

Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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Tiktok, in your hiring practice, you stated CCP members first and preferred, you have CCP organization in your company and they're very active daily(meeting, discussing how to serve better to CCP and obey CCP's leadership,etc), in fact your CEO etc must follow the CCP leaders in your organization, you're nothing but a CCP puppet. You're further evil enough to leverage the West free world to cover the true you.

this is the same logic as many CCP officers in the news section, they block twitter/facebook/etc inside mainland China, but themselves have active twitter/facebook/etc accounts to push CCP's propaganda. they become so good at leveraging the free world's system to cover their own evil actions. For god sake the west is waking up.

I did business there and I know you all well.

Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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> I think that free world should ban every company that comply with china censorship "I think the 'free' world should ban software and/or content". Condemn maybe, but it is scary to see such non-free actions encouraged against digital content.

otherwise you risk condemning in words while the regime begins to control and censor your words as well, while you continue to condemn without doing anything, perhaps with a hint of disdain or is it perhaps too much? there are those who take the south china sea, and then declare the republic of taiwan separationist and threaten to invade it weekly, not afraid to show strength, for the simple "desire for reunification…

To me it doesn't matter what the government origin of the software is, regardless of how involved. I take a hard stance against unilateral banning of otherwise legal software. It's unfortunate that the appeal to emotion is so commonly trotted out to equate fear of government overreach with support for the bad emotion. The list of detestable government actions done under similar pretenses is quite long.

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I think that free world should ban every company that comply with china censorship, here we are not talking about something like explicit content, or violence censorship which belong to cultural differences, here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free. or because you try to report abuse and suppression of the ruling class this type of free speech should be guaran…

Sounds like "fight fire with fire". Who defines which part of the world is "free"?

freedom can only start with free speech and can only start dying with censorship, you tell me now ..

puns are fun but lead nowhere if you want to talk seriously

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post #175

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> here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free Expel Spain from the EU. Economic blockade. Whatever it takes. At least the UK held a referendum on Scotland. Fake promises and all but we can't jail dissidents just because they try to form a separate country in today's world.

A bit of context would surely help to put this comment into perspective.

They jailed Catalan politicians and activists after winning a referendum for the independence of Catalonia: https://catalansalmon.com/campanyes/llibertat/?cvid=2

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post #175

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> here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free Expel Spain from the EU. Economic blockade. Whatever it takes. At least the UK held a referendum on Scotland. Fake promises and all but we can't jail dissidents just because they try to form a separate country in today's world.

I know it is completely off-topic AND I know I will be down-voted to death, but it is indeed absolutely shameful what happened in Spain. And we cannot tolerate this in the European Union. Also the European Court of Justice (ECJ) agrees that separatist politicians should not be jailed for their opinions as elected officials: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50808766 More info: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti…

> Also the European Court of Justice (ECJ) agrees that separatist politicians should not be jailed for their opinions as elected officials: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50808766

That's not at all what they said. According to the ECJ, they should have had temporary immunity just for the purpose of taking up their seats as MEPs even though they were on trial for a generic crime. That ruling doesn't have any judgement regarding the legality of separatism, and also wouldn't free them of prison time if found guilty by the Spanish court.

Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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post #147

I think that free world should ban every company that comply with china censorship, here we are not talking about something like explicit content, or violence censorship which belong to cultural differences, here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free. or because you try to report abuse and suppression of the ruling class this type of free speech should be guaran…

> here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free Expel Spain from the EU. Economic blockade. Whatever it takes. At least the UK held a referendum on Scotland. Fake promises and all but we can't jail dissidents just because they try to form a separate country in today's world.

The ship sailed long ago on the EU being anything but corrupt at this point for me when they continuously flirted the idea of Turkey being invited in, extend protected statuses in trade arrangements, and do nothing to help their actual members, like Greece, against the war games and provocations that occur on an almost weekly basis in the Aegean. Once again, it's all in the name of the oil.

Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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Congress and state legislatures can and should fix this.

Should fix... how? Companies should be compelled to provide a platform for free expression, and forbidden from removing any content, no matter how objectionable? It's unclear to me what you're suggesting.

I think it's clear what parent commenter is suggesting. And that no medium if privately owned has the right to moderate itself and must carry any and all speech and productions. Just because it's unreasonable and makes no sense doesn't mean people don't want it or widely support it on HN.

Re: Why we are suing the Administration

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I think that free world should ban every company that comply with china censorship, here we are not talking about something like explicit content, or violence censorship which belong to cultural differences, here we are talking about not being put in jail because you say publicly that tibet should be free. or because you try to report abuse and suppression of the ruling class this type of free speech should be guaran…

Hate to say it, but the terrific first amendment in the US only applies to the government. Companies and individuals can kick you out for saying things they dont like. There are laws against certain kinds of discrimination by companies, but those are not the first amendment. Just wanted to clarify that so we dont pretend companies are upholding constitutional rights on a regional basis. They are not accountable to it…

This. The writers of the constitution understood that if you didn't like doing business with a company you could just take your business to their competitor. If you don't like your bridge club or church, pick a different one. But if your government is infringing your rights, it's very difficult for most people to pick a different government.
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