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Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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> In a free market, if a company acts inadequately, you stop any interaction with it, you stop providing service to its customers No, actually. Those customers should have the right to deal with whoever they want. That is how free markets work. They work by not having the government go after people. > and go to its competitor or create your own competing platform Or, instead of that, those customers, who own their ow…

> No, actually. Those customers should have the right to deal with whoever they want. They shouldn't, a notion of rights does not include any material implementation of these rights for you by other people. If you disagree, then please make sure that I deal with Tesla and SpaceX on my terms next week, because I definitely want it. If you find that Apple acts as an abuser in an abusive relationship, you just cut all t…

> They shouldn't, a notion of rights does not include any material implementation of these rights for you by other people

This is about the customers rights. They should have a right to do whatever they want with there own devices, and buy repair services from anyone who chooses to deal with them.

I am not saying it is " for you by other people. ", so I am not sure why you are making this up, when that is clearly not what I meant. I repeated the same point, like 6 times, so I thought my point was clear, but somehow you ignored it.

Instead, I am saying that both these customers, and other companies, should have a right to deal with each other, if both agree, and an unrelated 3rd party, Apple, should have no ability to stop it by them using government force, which Apple is doing.

And if you don't agree in this voluntary trade, then you don't believe in free markets.

> If you find that Apple acts as an abuser in an abusive relationship

I find that they are using government force against others.

> you just cut all ties with the abuser

Well, the people who actually support free markets want to remove Apple's ability to use government force against others.

That is what we want to do. We want to get rid of their government supported coercion that they are using against others.

> "they should have a right to continue living with that person

I don't want a right to force Apple to deal with me. If they don't want to sell iPhones to people, they don't have to.

Instead, I want to remove Apple's ability to use government force against others, for engaging in voluntary trade. For example, Apple should not be able to sue anyone for voluntarily using 3rd party repair services.

> It implies that there's no force that is able to chain you to the abuser.

But there IS force! Apple is literally using government force against others. Stop ignoring this point. Lets get rid of that force that Apple is using against others.

I will repeat once again, so that this is clear.

You said "It implies that there's no force". I am saying that Apple is using force against others, through government support lawsuits, and I want to take away Apple's ability to use this force against others. Lets get rid of their ability to sue people, for voluntarily buying from 3rd party repair shops.

This is the point that I am making, and you keep ignoring it.

I made like 6 sentences where I repeated this exact same point, and somehow you ignored them multiple times that I repeated the same point, over and over again.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Exactly right. I can (and do) repair my own car. Not so long ago you it was a normal thing that you could build your own TV... https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalo...

> I can (and do) repair my own car. Out of random interest, what age is your car? Personally back when I had it I felt comfortable doing everything except steering, brakes and structural frame work on my 1994 VW T4, but I wouldn't dare touch a modern car. Too much investment required for special tooling, and diagnosis of problems requires a computer and specialized programs in contrast to a multimeter...

Well my fleet has grown to three: a 2000 VW B5 Passat (230K miles), a 2010 VW CC, and a 2003 Cadillac CTS I inherited from my parents and which is a good car for kids to learn to drive on.

I'm a bit invested in VW tools... (but no "vagcom" yet). One amazing thing is that the VW service books are cheaper than the GM one for the CTS...

Actually the CTS probably needs a steering rack. It's the only car I've ever owned that has play/backlash in the steering and it doesn't appear to be the linkage. I haven't quite worked up the nerve to do it yet, but I think about it every time I drive the thing. I'm tempted to sell it, but the value is not much, its mileage is low and my kids do need a car..

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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I have both pro (Home desktop) and enterprise (Work laptop). I don't notice a difference. But we don't really take advantage of the group policy very much.

It used to be Home versions couldn't get more "Enterprise" features, like full partition encryption and the ability to join a Domain. Naturally GPO doesn't apply to a home user. These days, I run Pro on pretty much everything and don't seem to miss anything. Perhaps "Enterprise" comes with less Candy Crush and other bloatware pre-installed?

Now that i've check it seems Enterpise get's the feature sof Pro for Workstations. https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/windowsforbusiness/compare

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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So buy a genuine battery then? They aren't hard to find and are under $100.

There is no genuine original battery on the market. Only option to get it is from Apple for 400eur. Every seller is lying about originality.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...well who cares if it calls itself a swan.

Anyone paying $400 for battery is out of their minds. My $100 apparently ‘fake’ battery performs identical as the one Apple sells. Who cares at that point.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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They’re not more reliable. I’m still using a thinkpad from 2013 as my daily driver. My work mbp failed after 6 months because dust specs got under the keyboard keys and stopped them from registering presses anymore.

I concur, I work in a department of mainly MBP15's and they have a terrible reliability experience here. The most common things that go wrong are faulty displays, keyboards and overheating issues. I'd go far as to say the MBP15 has a design flaw where the screen breaks right in the centre where you place your fingers or thumb.

My MacBook overheated and the entire logic board had to be replaced. Apple has designed the MacBook Pro to run right on the thermal limit, but their cooling doesn't seem to work well when you run multi threaded heavy IO processes. I now have a McBrick Pro

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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> There are good reasons to design components to work specifically with other components. There are also good reasons to make devices more modular. Both have value, to different users with different use cases. If your point is that there is a trade-off to modularity, I'm not sure who it is in response to. It's obvious that modularity has a tradeoff. And I don't see any significant group in this conversation contendin…

> If your point is that there is a trade-off to modularity, I'm not sure who it is in response to. It's obvious that modularity has a tradeoff. And I don't see any significant group in this conversation contending that. Nobody is asking for a user-replaceable RAM on an iPhone. I've seen many people in "right to repair" discussions arguing for legal mandates that every device must have a replaceable battery, for insta…

> I've seen many people in "right to repair" discussions arguing for legal mandates that every device must have a replaceable battery, for instance.

That's actually a good example of choosing the right tradeoff in demanding right to repair. Again, people are asking for replaceable batteries, not interchangeable RAMs (which would effectively disallow SoCs). This seems to limit the downsides of regulation to pretty much nothing.

A common worry about regulation is that it'll snowball [0] and stifle innovation. But R2R isn't asking for generic regulation. It is asking for specific and imo sane things like replaceable batteries. That is not too much to ask.

[0] As in: "If we give them batteries, pretty soon they'll ask for generic SoCs on phones" or something like that.

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