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How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by kaens »

czbond wrote: post #113
czbond wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why see a psychiatrist? Are those really things to 'fix' on the whole - given the upsides? I'm incredibly energetic. I can't sit down for long - so I just stand in meetings. TV is a waste of time, so is social small talk, I do what I care about (and it rewarded me well). I've just felt like the speed, risk tolerance, freedom it provides me, and intuition make a powerful combination. I'd say the ADHD (if it is) makes…

To expand - why not use it to your advantage? Consultants for larger, competitive companies do well w/ ADHD. Leaders do well. Founders do well (if they can stay focused on the opportunity). I have a CompSci degree, and loved doing algorithms, etc - but can't be bothered to sit behind an IDE for hours. So what - enough of people can do that well. I've found leadership to be the best use of skillsets where these 'sympt…

Because it is extremely difficult to control ADHD to your advantage. It is your entire experience of reality.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by trabant00 »

When you get decently good at one thing you discover there are no recipes. There exists an infinite possible issues that can disrupt a working system and applying a few canned solutions is lottery.

If you are looking at issues as a linear scale, for example a bolt from too tight or too lose, "making sure all your bolts are tight" (common tutorial type of advice) is not a very good thing.

Similarly, "how to stop procrastination". First thing I would ask somebody who would come with this to me in my field is "why do you want to stop, what are you actually trying to achieve?". Is the customer sure he should stop? Maybe he is overworked, maybe his job sucks, and solving procrastination would actually make his life worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem This is just one example of the many questions that should be asked before offering solutions.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by tsjq »

georgespencer wrote: post #25

It’s clearly not the case for everyone, but I struggled for an extended period of time with a few things in my personal and professional life: 1. Remarkable focus in topics which interest me and remarkable lack of focus in topics which do not. 2. Leaving “must do” tasks in areas of little interest until the very last moment, resulting in a predictable lack of excellence in execution. 3. Periodic deep dives into topic…

nicely written. that point-2 totally resonates here :(

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by afarrell »

al_ak wrote: post #66
vitabenes wrote: post #54

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Yes, Pychil's work is incorporated in our materials. This is the recipe for procrastination (according to us): 1. Think about a task - "I have to do _____." 2. Have an automatic negative reaction 2a. Negative thoughts - "I hate doing this,"... 2b Negative feelings - Feeling stressed, afraid,... 3. Procrastinate - Do something else to feel better. Procrastination is all about escaping negative emotions. Something make…

I really do hope your page helps some people with their procrastination issues. But I can't help feel like your whole approach suffers from engineers disease. But maybe that's what will resonate with some folks. A compassionate therapist can also do wonders for procrastination.

> engineers disease

what do you mean by that?

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by wtracy »

georgespencer wrote: post #25

It’s clearly not the case for everyone, but I struggled for an extended period of time with a few things in my personal and professional life: 1. Remarkable focus in topics which interest me and remarkable lack of focus in topics which do not. 2. Leaving “must do” tasks in areas of little interest until the very last moment, resulting in a predictable lack of excellence in execution. 3. Periodic deep dives into topic…

If all you have to go by is the popular stereotypes, you will be shocked by the number of engineers with ADD.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by afarrell »

firecall wrote: post #179
pmoriarty wrote: post #43

Some time back, I read all I could on procrastination, and watched dozens of videos on it, and by far the best thing I found on it was this video by Tim Pychyl: [1] It focuses particularly on procrastination in graduate school, but is widely applicable elsewhere. One of the key insights that Pychyl, a psychologist who studies procrastination, had is that procrastination is not (as is commonly believed) a time managem…

Thats interesting! I'm an ADHD sufferer. And one of the things they about Ritalin is that it's a DRI (dopamine reuptake inhibitor). More dopamine might mean you kinda feel more positive!

Also an ADHDer here. My current model of things is that Dopamine broadly signals messages like "you're going the right way, keep going".

Insufficient dopamine and you end up being really open to needing frequent positive feedback to follow through on a plan. Leading to either:

1) Distractibility -- greater task-switching in the face of frustration or negative emotions.

2) Hyperfocus -- lower task-switching in the face of frequent rewards (like from a video game or novel or programming with test-driven-development).

And then there's a bunch of other mood impacts from the life-impacts of that. For example: Emotional sensitivity due to memories of people being disappointed in you.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by indigochill »

joekim wrote: post #77
al_ak wrote: post #71

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That sounds pretty great actually. I just know what for me, none of this really "clicked" until I had someone to work through these emotions with

Most procrastination is emotional management, a sort of self-medicating from stress. Having a skilled therapist working through it with you sounds fantastic. I really like a technique called the "Sedona Method" for releasing difficult emotions.

I find it amusing when I look up "Sedona Method" I find lots of blurbs in the search previews about how simple and powerful it is, yet none of them actually give any clue as to what it involves (but you can buy a book that will reveal the secret!).

Not a criticism of the technique (since I have no idea what it involves, although I'm curious), moreso of the optics to someone searching for it. As opposed to something like the Pomodoro Technique which a search for does turn up blurbs about what it involves.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by jvanderbot »

Have I mentioned how I dislike the use of "mental model" for this type of post?

Or how X=Y+Z is misleading (set Z to zero, and you still have X). From post: " Behavior = motivation + ability + trigger...

According to FBM, there are three things we need to do something:

    Motivation
    Ability
    Trigger"
No, addition doesn't mean "You need all three". Multiplication does. B=MAT.

AND = multiply

OR = add.

Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

pmoriarty wrote: post #43

Some time back, I read all I could on procrastination, and watched dozens of videos on it, and by far the best thing I found on it was this video by Tim Pychyl: [1] It focuses particularly on procrastination in graduate school, but is widely applicable elsewhere. One of the key insights that Pychyl, a psychologist who studies procrastination, had is that procrastination is not (as is commonly believed) a time managem…

> Some time back, I read all I could on procrastination, and watched dozens of videos on it

You should have not done this; and instead focused on what you wanted to do in the first place!!

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