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Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by blumomo » Mon, Jul 06, 2020, 3:56 PM UTC

learc83 wrote: post #216

blumomo wrote: post #170

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No need to be insulting yourself. I was asking for evidence of the personal attacks and you listed them. The AP should have added then that a newborn was insulted instead of referring to „his family“. Someone who insults a baby must be quiet foolish. There seems to be a heating debate! At least Turkey got some balls and they talk openly about Adrenochrome in the main stream news, can’t be that bad their censorship. I…

>No need to be insulting yourself. I was asking for evidence of the personal attacks and you listed them. There was already plenty of evidence if you actually read the quote the and setup that it was the answer to a question about the attack. >At least Turkey got some balls and they talk openly about Adrenochrome in the main stream news, can’t be that bad their censorship. If you're talking about the fictional drug,…

It’s not fictional by no means. There’s sufficient evidence that Nazi-Germany researched about Adrenochrome that make it appear fictional to me. I would be careful in neglecting its existence and its use. You don’t know who you protect.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by rorykoehler » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 6:15 AM UTC

chr1 wrote: post #217

rorykoehler wrote: post #209

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Given what happened with Brexit I think this idea can only work with a highly educated populace living within a society underpinned by intellectually honest political discourse. We have neither at the moment.

With brexit people had only one opportunity to vote, so it was possible to mislead a large number of them, about unknown things happening in the future. With a system like this they could change their mind as the situation changes, so agitation would not have the same effect. As the saying goes "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all th…

Gaslighting is endemic in politics.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by chr1 » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 4:55 PM UTC

rorykoehler wrote: post #222

chr1 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With brexit people had only one opportunity to vote, so it was possible to mislead a large number of them, about unknown things happening in the future. With a system like this they could change their mind as the situation changes, so agitation would not have the same effect. As the saying goes "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all th…

Gaslighting is endemic in politics.

Could you explain what do you mean? If you think that majority of people are not smart enough to have a say in how they should be governed, you need to propose some mechanism, of reducing their voice, because the mechanism which we use now, is saying that they have full vote, and ignoring their vote.

Or do you mean that the current system is gaslighting and direct democracy would be better?

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by throwaway29103 » Wed, Jul 08, 2020, 11:28 AM UTC

throwaway29102 wrote: post #56

controversy wrote: post #35

The United States is not much better in terms of this. We have a free press in name only. If you are saying something that certain people don’t like, you are canceled. Your tweets will be taken down since you violated weakly worded community standards. You will be flagged on HN. Etc. Ultimately we have a dictatorship of ideas. The best answer so far is to go make a freedom platform with blackjack and hookers. Essenti…

You have every right to stand on a street corner and preach whatever manner of nonsense you want. There are two people doing that on the street below me right now (one is a charlatan peddling superstition, the other is a conspiracy theorist warning of the dangers of 5G). Your complaint in this context would be that my landlord isn’t giving you a stage and a megaphone?

Yesterday you wrote: "While I agree that we need more room for nuanced debate, this is not a wining argument. Our society needs more accountability, not less."... from a throwaway account that cannot "really" be deleted... you realize that, right?