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New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I don't think SF residents are as thrilled. It's overwhelmingly loud.

I imagine it’s just going to be ignored. Like the bart “screeching” they never fixed.

Did you watch the videos, specifically of the guy in what seems like a golf cart going over the walking section of the bridge? It sounded horribly loud, louder than the guy who was crying about how loud it was

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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What's resonating? If the slats themselves are resonating, spacing them differently won't help much. Then again, if it is the slats would a horizontal brace running along the middle of the slats dampen or eliminate the resonance? | | | ------------- | | |

Dampers are probably only solution that doesn't involve rebuilding it. I haven't seen a great photo, but one of the videos seems to show the rails are square tubing...so could be vortex shedding? Running a brace might not be a bad idea, but i could imagine that it might just double the octave, and make it a bit quieter

if damping weight work I could see a crowd sourced solution, a lot of people in the area could get some gorilla glue and a bucket of pebble and glue them on the slats.

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I'm just glad they identified the source of the hum, many people are impacted for years by unexplainable sounds, and it is maddening. It took me and my neighbours a month to find the source of a hum that was resonating with our windows. It was torture, with midnight walks and lurking around potential sources, mapping nearby industrial sites, and questioning our sanity, while our windows were vibrating without a stop.…

Two unrelated anecdotes: 1. A few years ago I spent some time in Falmouth, MA and there was an ongoing battle over newly installed wind turbines. The humming sound was getting to people, including to the point where they were getting headaches. Some people heard it and others didn't. The locals were going to war with the initiative. This article reminded me of that and I checked in on the ordeal. Looks like they shut…

Same think was driving me nuts in the BWCA, camping in areas where there should not be any engines. Came back all salty that someone must have a gas powered well or something. Outfitter said I should find a recording of a horny grouse... and I'll be damned, that was it beating its wings. Last trip over Memorial weekend we had one nearby, and it brought nothing but smiles.

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I imagine it’s just going to be ignored. Like the bart “screeching” they never fixed.

That's amazing. According to this article, bart is now moving to tapered wheels instead of plain cylindrical: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/6/11/17449460/bart-screen-convers... My understanding was that all rail systems since roughly forever use tapered wheels. Primarily to reduce wear, by having the tapered wheels self center instead of grinding against the track. It's really odd that they seem to just roll that out in…

It's great they are finally moving to the 19th century.

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I'm just glad they identified the source of the hum, many people are impacted for years by unexplainable sounds, and it is maddening. It took me and my neighbours a month to find the source of a hum that was resonating with our windows. It was torture, with midnight walks and lurking around potential sources, mapping nearby industrial sites, and questioning our sanity, while our windows were vibrating without a stop.…

My backyard backs in to a strip mall with an auto mechanic shop. We hear a high pitch sound some times of the day and when we step outside to inspect, we only hear a different sound from the shop behind - a typical machine running, but not necessarily unpleasant. Turns out the walls are able to mask the lower pitch sound somehow and let in only the unpleasant higher pitch sound to the inside of the house. I am not su…

Have you checked for windows resonating? It would be surprising if walls were acting as a high-pass filter.

Could also be electronic noise. I wonder what the machine is.

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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every musician ever: A440 PROVEN BY THE BRIDGE

A440 is not as universal as you’d think. Tunings as low as A435 and as high as A466 are in use even today. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)

yeah, where's their bridges?

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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Two unrelated anecdotes: 1. A few years ago I spent some time in Falmouth, MA and there was an ongoing battle over newly installed wind turbines. The humming sound was getting to people, including to the point where they were getting headaches. Some people heard it and others didn't. The locals were going to war with the initiative. This article reminded me of that and I checked in on the ordeal. Looks like they shut…

1. Very funny to be reading this. I grew up in Falmouth, and lived there until 2014 when I graduated highschool. I obviously wasn't incredibly attuned to this issue, but as I recall, the only people opposed to the installation of the turbines were a very small, very vocal, and very, very, wealthy minority of people who owned mind-bogglingly expensive beach houses and lived there two months out of the year. I'm fairly…

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Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I hope somebody has a chance to make high-quality samples/recordings before it's fixed. I doubt we'll get the chance to hear an instrument like this again, accidental or not.

> before it's fixed Given that it was intentional, what makes you think it'll be "fixed"?

It's going to be and should be fixed or at least alleviated. They probably thought there would be some noise but not like this. Some model prediction most likely didn't encompass some environmental element.

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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I'm just glad they identified the source of the hum, many people are impacted for years by unexplainable sounds, and it is maddening. It took me and my neighbours a month to find the source of a hum that was resonating with our windows. It was torture, with midnight walks and lurking around potential sources, mapping nearby industrial sites, and questioning our sanity, while our windows were vibrating without a stop.…

Had that where I live, for the first year. San Francisco as well (it's windy here!) Finally after about a year of it, figured out it was the turbine ventilator on my next door neighbor's roof. She was a bit elderly and didn't seem to want to do anything. Luckily I realized I could reach it from my own roof. So I jammed a stick in it and it never spun again. Problem solved!

Re: New slats make the Golden Gate Bridge sound like a David Lynch movie

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What's resonating? If the slats themselves are resonating, spacing them differently won't help much. Then again, if it is the slats would a horizontal brace running along the middle of the slats dampen or eliminate the resonance? | | | ------------- | | |

Dampers are probably only solution that doesn't involve rebuilding it. I haven't seen a great photo, but one of the videos seems to show the rails are square tubing...so could be vortex shedding? Running a brace might not be a bad idea, but i could imagine that it might just double the octave, and make it a bit quieter

Update: Just saw the video from the manufacturer, and it's not tubing like I thought I saw, but just flat stock steel. No wonder they're singing
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