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Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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competence at what, exactly?

At building great software. While America struggles to build one mile of subway, Europe struggles to write one line of code. There are exceptions (I'm partial to Jetbrains) but it's true overall.

Laughs in Linus Torvald, Joe Armstrong and Guido van Rossum, just off the top of my head

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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As a German who's been exclusively working in the US tech space for the past few years, there's so many anecdotes that come to mind to highlight how far behind the old world is, both in tech as in spirit: - Article about Gaia-X in major German newspaper FAZ explained that on AWS you can spin up your own infrastructure, "sometimes even without talking to anyone from sales", from your home! - When I tried to read or wa…

Tech salaries in Europe really are a joke. Even American companies don't pay well here because why would they, the market itself sucks. Combine that with easy immigration to US for Europeans and good affordable education it seems unlikely that talented people would choose to stay here. Part of the reason is the old money in this ecosystem. The problem with digitization in Germany specifically is that our paperwork is…

Today I was looking at some job ads for mid-senior devs in London. £50K and 200+ applicants. And then it says:fruits, free parking, private healthcare after 1 year.. And this suppose to be the tech center of Europe..

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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As much as I'd love for Hetzner to step up and start offering more managed services a la AWS, I just don't see it happening, and if it were I'm not sure I'd like the side-effects of that. Hetzner is laser-focused on delivering beefy and very affordable dedicated servers, apparently the way they are able to trim costs is by running most support functions on auto-pilot and having a very narrow set of products (servers,…

That's true, but there is also cloud.hetzner.com. It is rather newish and lacking most features the big 3 offer, but it might be getting there.

Hetzner Cloud is great for what it is, I personally love it. But the pace of product development at Hetzner is such that I would anticipate something like a managed load-balancer maybe being available in 1-3 years from now, and after that another year for the next product etc. They don't seem to be in a rush to compete with AWS (or even Scaleway) by broadening their product offerings, they'd rather stick to their strength which is fast and cheap servers. I commend them for it, and their approach is very German, but it doesn't help you if you need these managed services.

To give an anecdote regarding Hetzner and them building out an S3 clone: I once asked support if there was a way for me to upgrade the 10TB max object storage solution (Hetzner StorageBox) to more than that since I had outgrown it. Simple reply: No, but you can spin up multiple storage boxes...

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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This is basically the same line of reasoning used by people that say you could replace your corporate slack with IRC. Of course you could, but there's a good reason that people don't. If you just want to compare one VPS to another, the only thing you're comparing is cost and availability. But really there's many more factors that people are interested in considering beyond just that. Even if the only service you're i…

I have a vps at hetzner. I use it as irc bouncer and as a git remote for pass. Sell me on why I should use amazon instead.

I wouldn’t imagine personal IRC servers are what Germany and France are talking about when they discuss alternatives to AWS.

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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Does anybody have any technical details to share about Gaia-X? I mean service discovery, interchangeable services/interfaces, etc. has been around since the SOAP days (~ 2003) at least. Cloud can mean many things. Does there exist anything at all or is it just talk at the political level atm? Do they intend to fund new research into bringing these things, or will they pick existing tech?

GAIA-X: Technical Architecture: https://www.bmwi.de/Redaktion/EN/Publikationen/gaia-x-techni...

More on the project: https://www.bmwi.de/Redaktion/EN/Dossier/gaia-x.html

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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Learn to pay your programmers properly.

Pay is a problem but it’s one of many. The working culture is another big problem. Here’s a thread that summarises it quite well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17169504

Agreed, more than anything else it's a cultural problem. In France and Italy in particular. And salaries are a consequence of it.

Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’

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There were similar pronouncements made fifteen years ago or so about making a European search engine.

Is there a European search engine?

Yandex is European, but maybe not the right kind of European.

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How do they think Google became what it is, or most American companies like Amazon? That the US government funded it and kickstarted them with VC funds? A company like Airbus makes some sort of sense since the government heavily funds Boeing/Lockheed Martin via defense contracts. But Amazon/Google and VC-backed tech startups and companies? Not to mention that the pay for software developers and engineers in general i…

I.e. Germany has: * A good, free education system * Social security * Good healthcare system * Proper democracy * Politicians who aren't clowns * A total of 500 police killings ... in total since 1950 The US is close to becoming a failed state due to the increasing wealth and income gap. Also, please do me a favour and read up a bit on the history of silicon valley and us innovation. It's hard to claim the government…

"close to becoming a failed state"

citation needed. Last I checked SP500 has multiplied by 4 in 10 years. The DAX, uhmm..

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I agree completely: as a European, I find these projects pathetic. We need the humility to learn something from the US and create an environment and a framework in which private companies can thrive, instead of being constantly dragged down by bureaucracy, regulations, and a legal-judiciary system eager not to help but to assert its power.

In terms of innovation in semiconductors, should also learn from the success of China, South Korea, Taiwan!

Definitely, I didn't mention them only because I'm more familiar with the culture of the US (although indirectly). One thing we should certainly learn from China (and I guess other Asian cultures) is to copy first, and only when good at it start innovating. It takes a lot of humbleness and pragmatism over pride. And it works.
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