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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by SaulOfTheJungle »

overcast wrote: post #153

As small as it sounds, the collections feature is a big deal for me. Particularly in my line of work marketing food and drinks. Unfortunately sharing your collection with someone is a point in time. If you update your list, the link doesn't update to reflect that, nor does it update their collection if they've imported yours. What I would LOVE to see is Apple Maps developing it's own little social circle of recommend…

I agree.

The only reason I'm still using Google Maps on my iPhone is because of Apple Map's Yelp integration.

I boycott Yelp because of how they've treated businesses.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by bbatsell »

pauljonas wrote: post #196

I'd been using Waze for a couple of years, and initially it was far superior to Apple Maps. But a few months back, I got really frustrated with it because it led me down some closed roads & ended up doubling my commute time home from work that day. I'd also been noting how off it was on its estimates on when I'd get to my destination. And I was also perturbed by it not knowing the back street entrance to my work site…

This lines up with my experience. About a year and some change ago, it was undeniable to me that Apple Maps had become markedly superior at directions than Google Maps or Waze. GM/W would routinely just be very off and give me the alert to make a turn as I was passing it at speed. Apple has made one howler in the past year or so, directing me to a closed road — recovering from that took about 45 minutes because it was in rush hour at a bad spot — but I looked afterward and I’m pretty sure Google Maps would have given me the same route. Apple Maps’ directions for which lane to be in for an upcoming stoplight or exit are also far more accurate and helpful for me.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by unlinked_dll »

soylentcola wrote: post #122
unlinked_dll wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The final straw that got me to ditch android was Google sending me push notifications asking me to review places I've been to, via maps. If you want reviews, pay secret shoppers. And if you want me to use your app, don't make it painfully obvious you're spying on exactly where I go and when to do what.

I think it was more a way to crowdsource reviews and recommendation engine. It's certainly worth questioning the use of "unpaid labor" to improve a service, but I don't know if I'd call it "spying". Use of the service essentially boils down to "I tell it where I am/where I want to go. It tells me how best to get there/how to find the thing I want to find." I'm not sure how you would do that if you didn't share your l…

The issue for me is that it would ask me to review places I didn't ask for directions to. It would notice I had gone through a drive through and ask me to review the restaurant. It would ask me to review a furniture store I walked past on my way to work.

I don't want an app passively collecting data on me while I'm not using it.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by pfranz »

TheHypnotist wrote: post #121
mason55 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup I switched about a year ago because I liked the CarPlay interface the best out of [Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, Subaru Built In Maps]. And the privacy over Google Maps is a huge bonus.

I tried it. But then for some reason Apple Maps asked me to U-Turn on the Garden State Parkway. That's not an option. Back to waze i went.

I hear Apple is pretty responsive about correcting reported errors. There's error reporting inside the app that includes a spot to attach a photo. Of course, this can be problematic when driving and I much prefer Waze's error reporting.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by spectramax »

No one has mentioned this yet - Apple Maps provides a very accurate representation of traffic:

RED - Actually red (unlike Google Maps)... its bumper to bumper or less than 5 mph (8 kph)

ORANGE - Slow moving, perhaps less than (25 mph or 40 kph)

Google just shows everything RED. Yellow doesn't necessarily mean slow down in Google Maps. Its a mess.

Also, Apple maps is tremendously accurate in estimating how long it is going to take.

Major feature missing in Apple maps: Time it takes at a user specified hour. I use this to hunt for apartments, and test out how long it is going to take to and from work everyday. Google has this built in for a while "Leave at ____ time).

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by BlewisJS »

hyperbovine wrote: post #193
theboat wrote: post #92

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As much as I agree with your general sentiment, Apple Maps, like many of Apple's mobile apps, gets a boost from Apple's anti-competitive practices. It's utterly ridiculous that we can remove default apps from iOS, including Maps and Safari, but we can't set new default apps to replace them. If we ever get serious about increasing competition in the tech sector, an easy place to start is letting users set default brow…

> letting users set default browsers, maps, and email clients on their devices. This is so disingenuous. It's called Android. People hate it. Although the walled garden may offend you personally, the market at large has spoken.

Are you implying people hate Android and that iOS is way bigger in terms of market share?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by pfranz »

gnicholas wrote: post #135
skrause wrote: post #37

What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

> What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Wow, I've had the opposite experience. I've only used it a handful of times, but when I've reported incorrect phone numbers and such, it's always been fixed in just a few days, and I receive a notification through the app that they've done it. I found the experience to be impressively fast and painless. Sorry to hear i…

Other comments mentioned Apple had issues correcting streets/routes because they had to be corrected downstream (they licensed from places like TomTom). Part of the goal of this update is to bring it all in-house improving the turnaround time.

I wonder if your corrections, like phone numbers, we're on Apple's end and much easier to correct?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by SamBam »

oflannabhra wrote: post #205
pauljonas wrote: post #196

I'd been using Waze for a couple of years, and initially it was far superior to Apple Maps. But a few months back, I got really frustrated with it because it led me down some closed roads & ended up doubling my commute time home from work that day. I'd also been noting how off it was on its estimates on when I'd get to my destination. And I was also perturbed by it not knowing the back street entrance to my work site…

I seem to remember someone posting their results of testing Google Maps, Apple Maps, and Waze for ETA accuracy, and what you describe was also what they found: Apple Maps was the most accurate, Google Maps was optimistic, but accurate, Waze basically reported the best case scenario. Edit: found the original [0] I've long thought that Waze creates the illusion of saving massive amounts of time, when its benefits are m…

Google Maps also got the person there 5% faster than Apple Maps, in that study.

This really does call for a larger study, though. It would be nice to see how the error bars and potential differences come out across different trip times, and different drivers.

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Post by selectodude »

krrrh wrote: post #181
theboat wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I agree with your general sentiment, Apple Maps, like many of Apple's mobile apps, gets a boost from Apple's anti-competitive practices. It's utterly ridiculous that we can remove default apps from iOS, including Maps and Safari, but we can't set new default apps to replace them. If we ever get serious about increasing competition in the tech sector, an easy place to start is letting users set default brow…

What's worse for consumers in the end though? One profession missing in the parent comment are the researchers innovating on differential privacy. Apple has taken great pains to figure out ways to improve their maps without storing massive amounts of private user data, to the extent that they split routes in half, fuzz addresses, and analyze the start and end of trips independently. There's an argument that Google ha…

Google didn’t try and raise the price, they demanded user data in exchange for access.
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