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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by BrendanEich »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #128
uncletammy wrote: post #69

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Here's an idea. Go help them make it better. Fixing our broken ass network and the (bad) incentives that keep is afloat is one tough job. We need all the help we can get! You can start here: https://github.com/brave

Why should anyone volunteer their time to enrich Eich and his cohorts who hold the plurality of BAT?

https://etherscan.io/token/tokenholderchart/0x0d8775f6484306...

Public ledger nicely allows anyone to see what's going on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurality sounds fancy but you are using it wrong, on top of what it would mean if we were talking about votes being false counting tokens as votes.

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Post by nfoz »

znpy wrote: post #196
swebs wrote: post #132

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The real question is: Why should you watch them at all?

Because you're probably not paying for 99% of the contents that your web browser loads.

If you don't want to provide free content then stop publishing on the web, a free medium.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

Kpourdeilami wrote: post #147
apazzolini wrote: post #129

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> rather than intrusive in-page ads, Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system I'm sorry, how is that not orders of magnitudes MORE intrusive?

It is a lot more intrusive in my experience. I'd get notifications about random blockchain conferences all the time before I figured I had to disable brave rewards to get rid of them.

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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by prepend »

mdorazio wrote: post #54
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I would personally much rather allocate actual dollars instead of CryptoBuckOfTheDay backed by ads I have no desire to ever watch. Say, $20/month that gets allocated to sites I visit. The whole "reward people for watching ads" model just seems... wrong.

Me too, and I’m sure so would Brave. But it’s not really possible with dollars.

Flattr tried it a while back where you could set aside 5 euro per month, or whatever, and they would distribute it to the stuff you liked the most. But the transaction fees were high for them and it was hard to do super small payouts.

This is a crypto case that makes sense. I’m not quite sure how they will keep an exchange rate with the dollar as the only thing you can buy with it is cash to content. So you can buy BAT from Brave.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

apazzolini wrote: post #129
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

> rather than intrusive in-page ads, Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system I'm sorry, how is that not orders of magnitudes MORE intrusive?

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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by BrendanEich »

_bxg1 wrote: post #17

I tried out Brave ~3 years ago when it was still Electron-based, and it was unfortunately too laggy to be a daily driver. Then I tried it out again ~6 months ago after they'd switched it to being a Chromium fork. The speed was much-improved, but it suddenly started spamming me with push notifications about various features, Brave rewards, etc. I felt like I was blocking web ads just to get native ads instead. You can…

You turned on Brave Rewards at some point, it seems. If you want to tip and contribute anonymously but not get ads, just turn off ads (upper left of rewards settings).

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by BrendanEich »

lacker wrote: post #188

Is Brave making any amount of money from their advertising system? I can't find any public communications about it, and I would expect them to be touting if the numbers are good. The weird thing about Brave is that they raised $35 million from their crypto ICO, but that isn't like normal fundraising because you can only do it once. So they really need their real business to kick in and start working before they run o…

https://brave.com/transparency shows revenue share BAT buys to pay users their 70% from invoices paid in fiat. Some ad buyers use BAT, and we do some barters.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by fastball »

Hamcha wrote: post #22

I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

Sooooo, basically all of your issues are related to extensions.

Also don't know what you're talking about with items 3-4, I have 3rd party extensions loaded, it was pretty easy, and I don't get any error messages on startup.

Also I love the fact that all the Chrome extensions work in Brave.

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