Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:31 AM UTC

jillesvangurp wrote: post #191

iagooar wrote: post #168

It is great news for Berlin (and Brandenburg) as it will bring (big) money and attract talent. It might even attract people from Poland which is only an hour drive away and has a large pool of very talented and experienced engineers. So far besides maybe Siemens there wasn't too much industry here, which is more present in the south of the country. Being outside of the city center it won't contribute too much to gent…

I think it makes sense from that angle but also from the angle that Germany is rich grounds for poaching people that are currently working for one of the other big car manufacturers. E.g. VW just opened a huge plant for producing their EVs in Zwickau which would about 300km away. Brandenburg as a state is an interesting. Crucially, it's not the state of Berlin (Berlin is s city state within the German federation). Th…

Post by rusticpenn » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:38 AM UTC

jiofih wrote: post #205

rusticpenn wrote: post #192

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1 hour by train, 2 hours by car...

That’s “far” by local standards (I can be two countries over).

Post by imtringued » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:43 AM UTC

pteredactyl wrote: post #145

pixelpoet wrote: post #131

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It's not really about that, so much as wanting to avoid what happened to the Bay Area. Massive gentrification, something Berlin has already struggled with for about 10 years (almost its defining issue in modern times IMO), is a serious problem if the rest of the city is rather poor, which Berlin actually was in the 2000s compared to the rest of the country ("poor but sexy", as it was sold).

When I hear this, I hear jobs and the most revolutionary green company are not welcome. If that's the case, Berlin is lost. There is good and bad to gentrification. You don't hear stories of the people who bought their house for 50k in 1980 who then sold it in 2010 for 1.3MM. Or the people thankful they don't have to walk around in fear of gangs for themselves or their children. TO me the biggest problem is the State…

Post by rkachowski » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:45 AM UTC

pteredactyl wrote: post #145

pixelpoet wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really about that, so much as wanting to avoid what happened to the Bay Area. Massive gentrification, something Berlin has already struggled with for about 10 years (almost its defining issue in modern times IMO), is a serious problem if the rest of the city is rather poor, which Berlin actually was in the 2000s compared to the rest of the country ("poor but sexy", as it was sold).

When I hear this, I hear jobs and the most revolutionary green company are not welcome. If that's the case, Berlin is lost. There is good and bad to gentrification. You don't hear stories of the people who bought their house for 50k in 1980 who then sold it in 2010 for 1.3MM. Or the people thankful they don't have to walk around in fear of gangs for themselves or their children. TO me the biggest problem is the State…

Post by kwhitefoot » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:50 AM UTC

pbreit wrote: post #171

AngryData wrote: post #41

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If it is directly under the flight path the noise would make it less desirable and lower costs while the easy access to labor could possibly make up for the rest of the land costs.

Surely you're not worried about airplane noise in a car factory?