I Miss the Old Internet • Hacker News Board

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by tomcooks » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:15 AM UTC

pfundstein wrote: post #186

drewm1980 wrote: post #185

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Build it!

Easier said than done. How do you programmatically define "genuine" in a way that can't be easily spoofed?

Votes to get accepted, votes to get kicked out.

Like any "social ring", esoteric or not.

Edit: and vouching, if someone messes up the person that introduced her wll be obstracized as well.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by kkarakk » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:17 AM UTC

JohnFen wrote: post #30

notJim wrote: post #5

I generally agree. I've taken to appending "reddit" to many of my search queries, because flawed though it is, reddit is one of the few places you can read an actual human thought. It feels like nearly all content on the internet is some de-personalized corporate "content marketing" blog at this point. Just give us your email address and we'll send you a PDF (and a drip marketing campaign.) I think the old internet w…

Do you not find Reddit to be a bit of a cesspool? I tend to avoid it for that reason, but how true it is probably depends on which subreddit(s) we're talking about.

Just fyi people now say Hackernews is a cesspool and devto is the new hotness. or is it mastodon? all i know is i keep going back to reddit to actually get some meaningful discussion on a topic and not just an echochamber of "yeah that's what i think too!"(if you sort by controversial)

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by kkarakk » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:19 AM UTC

snaky wrote: post #208

cartoonworld wrote: post #144

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I just ran a google search for "Power Inverter Van". All of the results are either direct sales or affiliate advertising brochure sites disguised as a lifestyle blog. I guess you could argue that if I google that search term I'm probably planning to buy one or something, but if I append reddit I can get a really crappy discussion tab-esque function. If I try "Solar Powered Van" the results look a bit better but are b…

To find any useful content, first thing you do on the modern Internet is search for relevant forum for the topic you are interested in.

Then you have to wade through miles of posts calling out "blatant astroturfing"(people paid to write positive forum posts) on the site. Finding open and honest discussion is really hard

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by kkarakk » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:21 AM UTC

chipperyman573 wrote: post #122

snaky wrote: post #98

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Web forums are really big part of modern Internet, reddit is just the one of them.

In the classic web forum sense? Culture and all? I haven't been able to find any (but also I haven't looked very hard in the last 2-3 years). How are you finding out, just word of mouth?

Culture is what gives value to a web forum. If it's just an exchange of ideas it gets bogged down with astroturfing

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by anon1253 » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:40 AM UTC

Similarly named discussion from a while back https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17334552

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by j_wtf_all_taken » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 9:18 AM UTC

INTJ = "incredibly tiring jerk"?

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by scarejunba » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 9:29 AM UTC

buboard wrote: post #4

We don't have to "miss it". Let's just share it. There are many corners of the internet away from the spotlights. Let's just share some links, what are they ?

No, thanks. The rules of old Internet are different. HN would flip a shit at some old "guestbook" app and its GDPR incompatibility because the owner of the site stopped paying attention, for instance.

It's like Instagram ruining the nice spots. Now everyone knows where they are and they don't know how to behave.

Even lobste.rs is getting ropey, though the user tree does help with that.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by lethologica » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 9:39 AM UTC

anon9001 wrote: post #218

lethologica wrote: post #213

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Sure. For one we had a service that records video of your site visit so we knew exactly how you interacted with it. It would be no different from be standing behind you and watching your screen as you navigated a website. While the data is anonymised, I'm still morally against essentially video recording someones interactions with a site. There was never any notice that they were being recorded. The email marketing w…

Thanks. Almost all of that makes good sense, and it's pretty clear that optimization kept working so they just kept doing it. I wonder how much farther it will go. You lost me here though: > Hundreds of pages a day that were of absolutely no use to anyone but to Google Do you mean like spam/clickbait blog posts on their own domain? I'm having trouble connecting "producing garbage content" to "increased ranking from g…

Think along the lines of those recipe pages that have 2000 words of backstory that no one cares about but is considered good SEO practice in Googles eyes.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by Jaruzel » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 9:39 AM UTC

bashallah wrote: post #197

myrandomcomment wrote: post #147

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I am six months into reddit detox. The amount of time I have back is amazing. Only semi social site I read is this one. I have internet down to BBCNews, NHK, Reuters, HN, a few comics, Ars, next platform, the morning paper, Matt Levine and el reg. I am much happier :)

BBC fell of the wagon for me in the last 2 years especially. Been checking out The Independent more so lately. Just thought I’d share as I used to read BBCnews daily.

I stick with BBC News, but I balance it out with news from other sources, and somewhere in the middle of it all, is the 'real' story. In so far as the media are prepared to tell it.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by jiggawatts » Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

JohnFen wrote: post #30

notJim wrote: post #5

I generally agree. I've taken to appending "reddit" to many of my search queries, because flawed though it is, reddit is one of the few places you can read an actual human thought. It feels like nearly all content on the internet is some de-personalized corporate "content marketing" blog at this point. Just give us your email address and we'll send you a PDF (and a drip marketing campaign.) I think the old internet w…

Do you not find Reddit to be a bit of a cesspool? I tend to avoid it for that reason, but how true it is probably depends on which subreddit(s) we're talking about.

I do and it saddens me. It reminds me of the end days of Slashdot, right before I stopped commenting there entirely after a decade of positive interactions with like-minded people.

More than half of the top-voted content on Reddit is indistinguishable from bot-generated random memes.

Someone please explain to me what "blursed" means and why it's use means that it gets to go straight to the top of "/all" regularly...