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Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Pop_os! has done a lot for user experience (install and use), trending closer to macOS. I do see efforts being made towards capturing desktop users.

What Linux really needs is better support from third parties. If I could get a passable version of AutoCAD civil 3D on Linux, I'd never go back to windows. I'd be thrilled to pay for it. Of course... Microsoft owns AutoCAD. Coincidence???

? I don't think Autodesk is owned by MS?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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What company are you talking about?

To add on to what the other replier said - hilariously the monitor also doesn't come with VESA mounting holes standard - you have to buy an adapter separately for ~$100, so they screw you regardless of which stand option you want. Not sure why this was brought up under a reply about linux though.

Im sorry, but I really don't understand your perspective. Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change? Is Coach "screwing" it's customer by charging that much for a purse? High five audio devices often don't have cabling that consumer devices do - is that screwing the consumer?

I can appreciate that you don't want to pay that much, but how is it "screwing"?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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What about C: use Linux for the main desktop, use Wine for things that require Windows, use a VM with windows exclusively to launch that one annoying app which won't work under wine?

There isn’t just one app, there are plenty. Excel and adobe cs are the obvious ones. If you’re not in programming (exclusively) you’re stuck on Windows or Mac.

Wine works remarkably well these days. You can even run the latest Microsoft Office version.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Meanwhile, the Linux world is wasting its biggest opportunity to take over the desktop space. IMO, Unintuitive interfaces (e.g. Gnome shell), forced package management (as opposed to decentralized distribution of apps) and lack of care for graphic design are the biggest things keeping the masses away from the Linux desktop, because in other areas (speed, robustness, privacy, control) it just blows Windows out of the…

I wonder what it would be like if gnome and kde merged

Utter chaos, infighting, and possibly collapse. The GNOME/GTK and KDE/QT camps have very different philosophies, frameworks, preferred languages, and completely incompatible libraries.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. Here’s a true story that happened to my family. My son is the only person in the house who uses Windows. For his game machine. He set up a Microsoft online account. It got hacked - someone set up a fake family and managed to get my son’s account listed under it as a child. As a consequence, he couldn’t install any new software. I’m not sure wha…

> ...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. I'm not convinced that their offline security is good, either. I sometimes will pick up my Surface Pro 4 and disconnect it from the charger. Disconnecting from the charger usually (but not always...not sure what determines it) wakes it. It then turns on their equivalent of Apple's Face ID, and tries to log in. Sometimes I don't actually want…

> I'm not convinced that their offline security is good, either.

If they have physical access to the device there isn't much you can do anyway.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Or you could use a pihole to block their telemetry collection practices. Or you could prefer to play games and recognize there’s only one real option for playing the new ones Or you could hate them, but you work at a Windows shop. Please don’t assume everyone forced to use Windows enjoy Microsoft’s practices. Do you eat Nestle food? Are you aware of the evils of that company? Are you in support of those evils, despit…

I'm not trying to diminish your situation, but it seems a bit hyperbolic to suggest that anyone is forced to use Windows. If you really are being physically forced to do so against your will, that seems like even more reason to avoid them as much as possible.

The standard for “being forced” doesn’t have to be “gun to the head.” It can also be “is unemployed”

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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To add on to what the other replier said - hilariously the monitor also doesn't come with VESA mounting holes standard - you have to buy an adapter separately for ~$100, so they screw you regardless of which stand option you want. Not sure why this was brought up under a reply about linux though.

Im sorry, but I really don't understand your perspective. Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change? Is Coach "screwing" it's customer by charging that much for a purse? High five audio devices often don't have cabling that consumer devices do - is that screwing the consumer? I can appreciate that you don't want to pay that much, but how is it "screwing"?

>but how is it "screwing"?

Because all you get for $1000 is a one nice stand?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Most people on HN, I would postulate, don't use Windows. We might use VS Code, we might use Azure, but we aren't using Microsoft's operating system.

Windows remains the most convenient OS for video games, and given HN's userbase (mostly young men), I think a lot of people here use Windows.

I do but I don’t pay for it. I have a copy on boot camp and its been a while since the “Activate Windows” watermark stopped bothering me. It boots directly into Steam Big Picture. I know I know... but at least I’m not using malware infested solutions to keep it working.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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I help a friends dad with his computer sometimes. A few times per year, he brings it to me and says it’s being slow. Every time, it’s windows update bogging his machine down for weeks, since it can’t seem to update on its own without crashing and causing issues. Last week it took over 5 hours to reinstall an update - several times longer than would be needed to install windows or Linux from scratch.

I might install cinnamon next time he brings it by

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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It is bad, but I do not think you are stuck. But there are two fronts -- business offerings are going the same way. There is lots of pressure to use almost exclusively MS hosted services. And, in that market, not everything has a good replacement.

The reason why I feel like I’m stuck is based on my personal use case. Basically I need two things: A. Being able to use some proprietary software not available on Linux B. Being able to self build so I can select the HW that works for me With Linux I lose A and with Mac I would lose B. I’m thinking that a combo Mac Mini + Tower PC with Linux could work, but using two OSes at the same time, even with shared NAS, KVM…

Maybe is not appropriate to "convert" you here, but I recommend self building so you get good Linux support, and then running Windows in a VM. Usually you can run program in WINE, but VM should always work.
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