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U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

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Post by jacobush »

whiddershins wrote: post #193
alpb wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one…

What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.

Re: U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

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Post by esailija »

whiddershins wrote: post #215

I wonder why, even though we generally try to be skeptical of the news, I’m not seeing many comments here that question whether what this article is saying is even accurate. How exactly does the reporter know which people are IS fighters? Is there some notion that militants don’t ever also farm? Also in these comments there seems to be a huge double standard. The idea the United States might accidentally kill some ci…

> How exactly does the reporter know which people are IS fighters? Is there some notion that militants don’t ever also farm?

Guilty until proven innocent, right?

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Post by saiya-jin »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #124
TeMPOraL wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This definition only reinforces the parent's point. What it rules out as "not terrorism" is regular organized crime, which isn't too much into bombings anyway. Bombs are almost never used without a political/ideological agenda, because they're too expensive and require too much coordination to make, maintain and deploy.

By that logic, you could describe WWII as just a bunch of terrorists who disagreed. Which of course, nobody does.

You're wrong, all those WWII resistance fighters were by definition terrorists to germans/japanese. Its just that US marketing over-used the term in past decade and a half to label anybody inconvenient as a justified target for extermination because 'national security'

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Post by benjaminbrodie2 »

gcatalfamo wrote: post #14

This is how you create terrorists. What do you think the children and friends feelings towards the US will be from now on? People get radicalized for much less than that.

Why not just kill those children and friends then, since we have reasonable expectation that they will become radicalized? We already extensively kill the family and children of terrorists

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Post by jacobush »

smcl wrote: post #103
drcross wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The British oppressed the Irish for 800 years with a systematic destruction of culture and contribution to genocide which halved the population and then recently had the audacity to assume Ireland would be allies during Brexit negotiations.

The negotiations and the deal were extremely dumb in many ways (as is Brexit overall), but this is a really weird take on it. It does make sense that Britain would try to use the fact that Ireland has a substantial amount of trade with the UK and it is not inconceivable that Ireland might therefore in its own self-interest want some sort of deal.

Weird or not, that's the take in many places, Ireland and Afghanistan alike. A modest proposal, eh?

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Post by pnako »

whiddershins wrote: post #126
wruza wrote: post #2

Now imagine “U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in France” and feel the difference (which is non-existent). Then it goes on tv and reads the list of this morning’s evil men who must be stopped.

Now imagine “France knowingly harbors 911 terrorists.” “French leaders take credit for car bombing which kills 23 civilians.” There’s a historical reason for this discrepancy.

Afghanistan does not harbor 9/11 terrorists. The 9/11 terrorists were all from Saudi Arabia, they did not learn how to fly in a cave in the Afghan mountains and their funding did not come from a financial center in Kandahar; Bin Laden was found hiding in Pakistan.

That war is absurd and should have stopped a long time ago. It's just fueling more terrorism. All western countries should leave the middle east, for good, forever (except maybe the odd ship to secure shipping lanes and stuff like that, but you get my point).

Re: U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

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Post by dullgiulio »

esailija wrote: post #222
whiddershins wrote: post #215

I wonder why, even though we generally try to be skeptical of the news, I’m not seeing many comments here that question whether what this article is saying is even accurate. How exactly does the reporter know which people are IS fighters? Is there some notion that militants don’t ever also farm? Also in these comments there seems to be a huge double standard. The idea the United States might accidentally kill some ci…

> How exactly does the reporter know which people are IS fighters? Is there some notion that militants don’t ever also farm? Guilty until proven innocent, right?

I think the parent is saying "how do reporters have better intel than the military?"

Then of course it might be the case here that civilians were targeted, by mistake or on purpose. But the parent point is quite valid.

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Post by zapnuk »

whiddershins wrote: post #215

I wonder why, even though we generally try to be skeptical of the news, I’m not seeing many comments here that question whether what this article is saying is even accurate. How exactly does the reporter know which people are IS fighters? Is there some notion that militants don’t ever also farm? Also in these comments there seems to be a huge double standard. The idea the United States might accidentally kill some ci…

The double standard come from the fact that the USA is usually held to higher standards than terror organizations.

But you are correct, killing civilians with drones isn't much different compared to other acts of terror.

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Post by mad_tortoise »

whiddershins wrote: post #193
alpb wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one…

Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
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