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OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by Fickry »

big_chungus wrote: post #181
Fickry wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you expected from a company who even cant made a phone with simple bluetooth file sharing

Bluetooth file sharing works fine on just about every phone I've used. Bluetooth just isn't built for high-bandwidth applications like this, meaning while it's fine for a photograph, you will have issues with larger transfers. That's not a flaw in the implementation, bluetooth just isn't built for high transfer speeds. It is built to transfer enough data and operate at low power, not to be just another wireless NIC.

Its maybe slow. But still perfectly work for cross platform sharing file, from old symbian, different computer, printer, speakers...

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by newscracker »

devtanna wrote: post #3

I wish we had something like AirDrop to work between android and iOS devices.

Apple wouldn't allow a solution that's integrated within the OS, but if you want to share data between devices, AirDroid [1] is one such free service. It is available on multiple platforms, including Android, iOS, macOS, Windows and web. Use web.airdroid.com on devices/computers where you don't want to install the application.

[1]: https://www.airdroid.com/

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by newscracker »

lucb1e wrote: post #207
devtanna wrote: post #3

I wish we had something like AirDrop to work between android and iOS devices.

I use https://dro.pm a lot to share files or links. Since the links are super short (I just made https://dro.pm/a --- note that it'll expire in 12 hours), you can just give the link to someone over the phone, put them in a presentation, or just share files independent of any operating system. I even use it even between my laptop and my phone fairly frequently, since the top suggestion on my phone keyboard in the brow…

Firefox Send (send.firefox.com) may be another option to share files, though the link would be longer than what you have with dro.pm.

> magic-wormhole is superior in that you don't have a trusted third party.

Well, magic-wormhole does need a trusted third party called Rendezvous Server. [1]

[1]: https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#ren...

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by lucb1e »

newscracker wrote: post #223
lucb1e wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use https://dro.pm a lot to share files or links. Since the links are super short (I just made https://dro.pm/a --- note that it'll expire in 12 hours), you can just give the link to someone over the phone, put them in a presentation, or just share files independent of any operating system. I even use it even between my laptop and my phone fairly frequently, since the top suggestion on my phone keyboard in the brow…

Firefox Send (send.firefox.com) may be another option to share files, though the link would be longer than what you have with dro.pm. > magic-wormhole is superior in that you don't have a trusted third party. Well, magic-wormhole does need a trusted third party called Rendezvous Server. [1] [1]: https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#ren...

If I understand it correctly, the rendezvous server is not a trusted third party, just a message relay. They wouldn't be able to read or modify your file transfer's contents.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by arghwhat »

sjnair96 wrote: post #202
arghwhat wrote: post #197

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Censorship evasion is doable within minutes for most, which is well known for those interested in it. However, many do not feel compelled to evade it, and have no idea of what happens "on the outside".

Censorship evasion is no longer trivial. Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) exists and makes it difficult to use even VPNs. Shadowsocks works but has limited UDP support out of the box iirc.

There are massive regional variations, so what I say is likely not universal, but my non-techie acquaintances still successfully use VPNs, in their case to use services like Facebook and WhatsApp.

I do not know what provider they use, but their knowledge of VPNs go no further than knowing that "VPN = facebook access", so it would seem that "commoners" still manage at least in some bigger regions.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by aardshark »

nesadi wrote: post #150
aardshark wrote: post #128

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One of the limits is that you can't choose where your downloads go. Also, there are now ads on the unpaid version, which I think weren't there before. I grew to dislike the app after running into the limits/ads. It does work, but it feels cheap and unpolished. There's no way I'd ever buy one of the pricing plans. I just don't feel like I would be getting my money's worth, especially when I could just go through a mor…

Ah, okay. I'm considering buying it because it fills a certain need (transferring files easily between my iOS and Android/PC devices easily and quickly. 10€/year for something that works well, takes a minimum of tapping buttons and just doesn't get in my way, it seems worth it. But then I'm somebody who'll pay 20€ for an app if it means I "own" it and it solves whatever problem I have.

I'd probably pay 10€ outright for it if I got to own it forever, but I dislike paying for it yearly.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by Fickry »

skrowl wrote: post #89
mxuribe wrote: post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

https://files.google.com/ is a standard and it works on the vast majority of phone sold this year, by every manufacturer except Apple. Checks all 3 of peer-to-peer, secure, no MiTM network blockage. It's only 11MB. Many popular file manager apps on android have peer-to-peer xfers as well, via WiFi direct, etc. EDIT - As people are pointing out this isn't universal because it doesn't work on Apple devices or desktops…

Its apple fault not google fault

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by opless »

HNcantBtrustd wrote: post #188
oarsinsync wrote: post #111

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What about your apple peer developers, who have made a deliberate and conscious choice to use Apple devices in their day to day life, and stable open source solutions in production / deployment environments? Some of us used to live in the FOSS garden, and decided to trade extra money in exchange for receiving a lot of time back and a shiny finish. Everyones values vary.

I don't think your premise that you are saving time is correct. Apple advertises similar to Luxury car buyers to make you believe you are getting a high quality product. But it's going to be really hard to prove things are quicker.

I think the apple experience is friction-less for their target market.

Live in their ecosystem, and everything 'just works'. Watch, Phone, Tablet, Laptop.

Linux/Windows you don't quite have that level of integration ...

You expect more from luxury items than with a $300 windows/linux laptop, a $100 fitbit, or a $200 android tablet - good luck with getting a similar level of interoperability between them...

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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Post by JetSpiegel »

opless wrote: post #229
HNcantBtrustd wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think your premise that you are saving time is correct. Apple advertises similar to Luxury car buyers to make you believe you are getting a high quality product. But it's going to be really hard to prove things are quicker.

I think the apple experience is friction-less for their target market. Live in their ecosystem, and everything 'just works'. Watch, Phone, Tablet, Laptop. Linux/Windows you don't quite have that level of integration ... You expect more from luxury items than with a $300 windows/linux laptop, a $100 fitbit, or a $200 android tablet - good luck with getting a similar level of interoperability between them...

To be pedantic, the integration outside of Apple's ecosystem is available for the cognoscenti. Not for the masses.
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