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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by Recursing »

rhino369 wrote: post #213
fimdomeio wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Originaly it didn't belong to google, it was an aquisition. I remember seeing a ted talk about it. To me it constantly feels like I'm working for google for free for their AI projects which is very annoying comparing to help a smaller company OCR books.

Trying to convince a robot that you aren’t a robot by teaching a robot how to look at pictures is a pretty absurd state of the world. When they reboot the Matrix, instead of being used as batteries, the machines will keep humans around for machine learning test sets.

I think that was the original story for the matrix https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executiv...

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Post by psadauskas »

crazygringo wrote: post #170

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

I keep expecting it to eventually ask me to "click on the pictures of terrorists" and them using it to train automatic drone targeting software.

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Post by izacus »

crazygringo wrote: post #170

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

What happened? The spambot algorithms have gotten better and can now defeat the simple tasks. It's a perpetual arms race of you vs. the spambot developers.

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x3sphere wrote: post #216
dessant wrote: post #39

I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…

reCaptcha v3 works well for me. There are no challenges anymore and it just gives you a score based on whether it thinks the user is a bot/spammer, then you can do whatever with that. Personally if the score is low enough I just place the user in a restricted user group that needs approval on certain site actions.

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Post by mevile »

Ocha wrote: post #27

FYI. Title is misleading. This experience has nothing to do Firefox vs Chrome. Result is because of 3rd party cookie and tracker blocking. I had same and even worse (I was not able to get through captcha) experience on chrome itself because I have 3rd party cookies disabled and couple privacy oriented extensions running.

Your comment is correct, Firefox now blocks trackers and it's probably, and hopefully, blocking whatever recaptcha uses to determine you're not a robot. So using firefox you get the harder recaptcha because it's blocking Google from spying on you.

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Post by calibas »

guelo wrote: post #133
SCHiM wrote: post #94

Big rant, there are few things I hate more than filling out their endless useless CAPTCHA's when browsing websites that have nothing to do with Google. Google is a hypocritical pile of burning . They use bots right? They scrape websites, they infest everything from my banking website to console emulators with their tracking, and yet we little people are not allowed to scrape or interface with the web programmatically…

It's the web developer that doesn't want you to interact with their site programmatically.

Google and Facebook tend to do it as a matter of policy, and while they say it's to protect privacy and prevent abuse, it also furthers the "walled garden" effect.

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Post by exakoustos »

talonx wrote: post #41
exakoustos wrote: post #10

This is why once I switched to FF I also switched to DuckDuckGo

The captcha has nothing to do with Google the search engine. Google's catpcha is used on a lot of websites which are not connected with Google. On a different note, this also makes it difficult to use such websites if you block google domains in your adblocker for non-Google sites.

You would think that they wouldn't block search. But Google kept throwing me at captcha when I was in FF and not signed in. The biggest pain so far has been the lack of map integration.

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Post by squidi »

mikro2nd wrote: post #195
crazygringo wrote: post #170

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

There's a third problem: quite a bit of the stuff they present is (almost) uniquely American and presents a recognition challenge in other cultural contexts. That yellow vehicle? Looks nothing like a bus in most other parts of the world. And so the rest of the world gets to learn what an American Bus looks like... Not, I think, what was intended.

E.g “Spot the fire hydrant” - oh, it’s those things that cops drive over in Hollywood movies. I don’t know if other counties have them too but it seems distinctly American and this capatcha is oddly common

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Post by parrellel »

finchisko wrote: post #82

This doesn't make sense to me. Making reCaptcha work worse in FF without telling user that if he/she used Chrome it would be better. Only few tech savvy people (hn readers), will eventually realize that. And it doesn't make them to switch to Chrome (or does it?). They'll just be angry. And btw I hate reCaptcha. Is it really only option to fight with spam? When I see it on sites, like dhl parcel tracking, I get mad. I…

If you increase user friction enough, subtly, eventually the affected user is going to look for something else, and now there's only one real something else - especially for non-techie users.

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Post by idoubtit »

granshaw wrote: post #102
fasthandle wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reCAPTCHA also just doesn't work in the most populous country in the world. translate.google.cn does, but Google's reCAPTCHA does not. This is a big pain point. Thanks for the link to turingtest, I will certainly test it.

To be fair, lots of things on the internet don’t work in the most populous country in the world.

> the most populous country in the world

The United Nations estimates the current population of China around 50,000 more than the population of India. Given the uncertainty of these numbers, I can't exclude that India already has the most numerous population.

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