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Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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> And it's a rather interesting time to be stirring up this particular pot in the UK... Can you elaborate? I can't think of any reason why this would be more or less interesting than any time since the Swedes dropped the rape case. But i can't say I've been following that closely recently.

The UK is in the middle of a constitutional and social crisis that goes by the name of Brexit.

I'm aware. What's that got to do with Assange?

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Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

I agree with free Snowden. But Manning and Assange had a history of leaking unredacted personal information that is indefensible. In the case of Manning, I might add that the leak didn’t show any major wrong doing. It illustrated some case of collateral damage, which we always knew (and the US military keeps public records of). It showed the underbelly of the US diplomacy, which turns out to be rather clean (some amb…

You don’t think gunning down journalists and innocent civilians from a helicopter is “major wrong doing?”

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I see no material difference in your description and the term rape. An agreement to have sex with a condom only is certainly not valid for condom-less sex. And your spurious accusation of bribery is just baffling.

Violently and forcibly penetrating someone against their will is a pretty big difference to not using a condom when previously asked to do so. Depending on the country, yes they're both rape by the legal definition, but it's absolutely worth clarifying.

One of those is recklessly exposing someone to the risk of an incurable disease, the other is doing the same thing with additional immediately visible damage.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Manning revealed war crimes, yet the only person who went to prison was Manning. That's all we need to know really. The system is broken und unable to fix itself. Edit: Free Reality Winner

That Manning matter is settled. She has immunity and double jeopardy protection. Sitting in jail in protest of a grand jury is a futile gesture that says more about Manning’s need for attention than anything else.

I don't understand how you can claim this is a futile gesture. If she doesn't want to talk on the record, or state things which might involve snitching on someone I find that to be an admirable action to take.

By the end of the grand jury she will be freed, and she will be freed with the moral high ground. If you think having morals about not snitching is 'futile' that is your choice but many people take it very seriously.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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The UK is in the middle of a constitutional and social crisis that goes by the name of Brexit.

I'm aware. What's that got to do with Assange?

Assange is a polarizing figure. He's a reminder of how irritating it is to comply with international law (it wasn't an uncommon sentiment in the UK that they should just barge in to the embassy and get him anyway). He's a reminder of "overly liberal" European laws (there was a lot of talk about the supposedly unreasonable nature of Sweden's rape laws).

In other words, nothing directly, but just seeing his name again is, politically, so much fuel for the fire. In fact I see that this entire news story has been engineered by the Wikileaks Twitter account, both the actual story and the supposed reason for it.

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I think we all got caught up in wiki leaks and the seemingly good fight for truth, but to me, their truth looks biased. I mean, you have to wonder why wiki leaks helped Trump win the election and then pretty much stopped their American leaks. Did the American military stop using murder drones? Wouldn’t Trumps taxes or the Mueller report be interesting? Why have all the abundance of White House leaks ended up in tradi…

Could it be that no Russian citizen is leaking because reasons? If there are no leaks from Russia what can they do? I remember that the leaks about money hidden in the paradise countries contained a lot of russians too.

There are leaks from Russia though, like when their entire Olympic athlete program was outed in the doping scandal, or when they hacked the Ukrainian power grid, or the troll factories.

The leaks just never make it to wiki leaks.

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I mean, it's possible that he's lost his mind during the 7 years of imprisonment without trial.

It’s disingenuous to imply he’s being held against his will in violation of his human rights when in fact the UK government has gone to great lengths to get him to show up to a criminal investigation, and his appeals in the courts were entirely ordinary.

It's pathetic pedantry to say he isn't, as if you can even begin to imagine his situation.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…

If he liked keeping quiet he wouldn't need asylum in the first place.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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If you’re going to live permanently as an un-paying guest in someone else’s building (in this case, the Ecuadorian embassy in London), it’s not a smart idea to be such “a slob” that your hosts are just waiting for an excuse to get rid of you and stop dealing with your bullshit. Similarly, if you are a miserable guest when staying temporarily at a string of friends’ houses, you won’t keep having friends for very long.

You say guest as though he can just walk out the door anytime in the last 7 years. Will his real hosts let him catch a plane to Ecuador? Terrible analogy.

Um, he could have just walked out the door anytime in the last 7 years.

Oh, you meant without facing the charges from Sweden? Why should he be free to not face them?

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Well, maybe he should not have also offended (in the law and the colloquial sense) his „real“ hosts. It’s almost as if no man is an island, and also Karma.

Or raped someone, for that matter.

Uh, ok. That "rape" was a female intelligence agent provocateur. They took one look at his character flaws and came up with an awesome entrapment plan.

Look, being a spook isn't hard when most political figures and guys like Assange love to drink and chase tail. It's even easier when the tail comes on to you, ostensibly because you're website is well known and you're a sort of counter-cultural hero because of your cause (exposing wrongs through leaks).

Assange was set up. Regardless of his personality, he was clearly targeted by the CIA and MI5/6.

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