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Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Just check (3/22/19) and yup sure enough https://i.imgur.com/6SMBjDa.png . I find this is pretty common with many software websites that have ads, I'm really surprised paint.net doesn't switch to carbon or something. EDIT: There's another one at the bottom of the page too. And they're randomized, some make it clear you aren't downloading Paint.net (such as the "Free Mac PDF Reader") but others aren't at all.

Why don't developers put a thick border with 'Advertisement' in bold around the ad space so that ads displayed doesn't look like they are native elements?

Because then they make less money.

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> Microsoft? Major ISPs and wireless carriers? These are physical businesses, not internet companies. Bing has ads. Twitter has ads. Reddit has ads. Yahoo! has had ads since 1990s.

How is Microsoft a physical business? They provide services delivered online, just like Facebook, Google, etc does. > Yahoo! had ads since 1990s. Twitter has ads. Reddit has ads. And yet seems like Reddit is the only one doing somewhat good (and even then the community is pissed off and rightfully so, and without the community they'd suffer the same fate as the two former ones).

> How is Microsoft a physical business?

A lot of its income comes from licensing Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office, which are physical products.

And where Microsoft competes with Google directly, it often shows ads just like Google does[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Ads

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Even responsible journalistic websites like Der Spiegel (insert comment about Relotius here) run ads like these, where the ads appear like "related articles" underneath serious articles... And people ask me why I block ads.

I block, but some still get through. Ive got them blocked by a firewall and dns but parts go out of date. What do you use?

ublock origin + privacy badger has been virtually flawless for me.

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> He also acknowledged removing the photos and names of people, including his cofounder, Tal Melenboim, from Aniview’s website after being contacted by BuzzFeed News.

Streisand Effect. Archived version of their "Team" page: https://web.archive.org/web/20171004134601/http://www.anivie...

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> Google, in particular, collapses. ... Facebook probably goes as well. You say this as if it’s a bad thing. In my personal opinion, both of these companies have ultimately done more harm than good. Maybe Facebook more so than Google, and some Google products have pushed various tech forward, but at the expense of being tracked and watched and having garbage we don’t want or need constantly punch us in the face for o…

>More people seem to be suffering from anxiety and depression and I personally think these companies are a major part of the cause. That trend pre-dates Google or Facebook. Before them and Snapchat and instagram, it was text messaging. The basic ability to send messages to your friends in real-time is the problem. Individual services can make it incrementally better or worse, but it's the behaviour that's the actual…

The basic ability to send messages to your friends in real-time is the problem.

I don't think that is the problem. Sending messages to your friends still has a social contract, and abusing that privilege has repercussions.

Sending messages anonymously to unknown people is much more of a problem (e.g. robocalling).

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How is Microsoft a physical business? They provide services delivered online, just like Facebook, Google, etc does. > Yahoo! had ads since 1990s. Twitter has ads. Reddit has ads. And yet seems like Reddit is the only one doing somewhat good (and even then the community is pissed off and rightfully so, and without the community they'd suffer the same fate as the two former ones).

> How is Microsoft a physical business? A lot of its income comes from licensing Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office, which are physical products. And where Microsoft competes with Google directly, it often shows ads just like Google does[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Ads

O365 however does not, in contrast with Google Docs.

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Have you ever tried to convince someone to pay for something they believe they can get for free? The number of people who will pay monthly for user-respecting basic fundamentals like email is shockingly small. How much do you pay for your email?

Why would anyone pay for email when arguably the best in breed email service is free? Why pay more for a worse product?

Gmail might have been best of breed in 2004 on the basis of its superior spam filter, but that's certainly not the case now. In fact, with the recent change to the UI, Gmail now loads incredibly slowly or not at all on Firefox. It's bad in Chrome too, but much closer to unusable on FF.

No other webmail service I've ever used has given me the lag issues Gmail has.

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> Advertising is a scourge upon society. I understand where you're coming from, but that's painting with a pretty broad brush. Advertising covers everything from the signage stating the name of the mom-and-pop shop on the corner (which is why cities often limit the size of logos/names on building) to billboards on the side of the freeway. It covers movie trailers I seek out ant watch to see what's coming soon to comm…

You're right. Advertising is just a symptom of the root problem, capitalism. "Attention is currency in the marketplace of ideas" as they say. If everyone is supposed to vote with their dollar, you need to make them vote for you. The easiest way to do that is by fighting for your attention.

We're talking digital ads here, and the root cause of that is the cultural assumption that Internet content = free content. Now we know that someone is paying for the content one way or another. But we let the imbalance stick around too long, and programmatic advertising rushed in to fill the vaccuum.

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Voters are also usually not responsible enough to handle democracy either, and yet here we are. 1) If you don't tell people about your product, they won't know about it and probably won't use it. Word of mouth is ok, but it is surprising how many people are left uncertain and in the dark about what their options are if they aren't directly told what their options are. 2) Without advertising, the internet collapses. G…

The internet existed before advertising and it could continue to exist without it. People still desire instant communication and they would pay for it if a free option did not exist. A lot of garbage like Facebook would fall and real social networks would take place with real interactions not algorithms trying to drive fake engagement.

> The internet existed before advertising and it could continue to exist without it.

It would, but it would be much harder to find content, because the major search engines pretty much only show corporate content marketing pieces that are written specifically to rank well in search results.

The other day, I was looking for some essays or blog posts about a particular TV show. The first 5 pages on Google were all variations of "10 things you didn't know", "this moment made our jaws drop", "How working in an office is like [completely dissimilar situation in the show]".

The only way I was able to actually find a human-written post (completely different style from a conversion-focused copy writer's post) was when I was searching for a screencap from the show on Google images. It's easy to distinguish user-captured images from corporate, licensed images, so clicking on the source link showed me a beautifully written, hilariously annotated season review on a cheap blogspot domain. That reminded me of the early Internet, when the writing felt much more personal and relatable.

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FWIW the companies responsible for those ads are Taboola, Outbrain, and Revcontent. I posted one especially egregious example last week on r/adops: https://www.reddit.com/r/adops/comments/b0n57e/its_embarrass...

Huh, you are right. Those scummy links at Washington Post are all Outbrain. I was mistaken then (because they use BOTH Google and Outbrain)

It's fairly common for large media sites to use multiple ad vendors. WaPo isn't unique here.
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