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Toxic Workers Are More Productive, But the Price Is High

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One person's experience is basically useless, statistically speaking.

How about one person, experiencing the same thing dozens of times?

Dozens is a drop in the proverbial bucket.

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I have recently been labeled a “brilliant jerk” at a FAANG company and threatened with termination. In actuality I now know that I have acted like this (not always but sometimes) and I take ownership of it. In trying to come to terms with it, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I think the research is overly simplistic particularly when it comes to motivation. I am not a psychopath and I am not purely self interest…

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Re: Toxic Workers Are More Productive, But the Price Is High

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I have recently been labeled a “brilliant jerk” at a FAANG company and threatened with termination. In actuality I now know that I have acted like this (not always but sometimes) and I take ownership of it. In trying to come to terms with it, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I think the research is overly simplistic particularly when it comes to motivation. I am not a psychopath and I am not purely self interest…

I had the same experience. My manager refused to see what was in front of him. After I left that jobs, my mental health greatly improved because I no longer had to deal with unrealistic deadlines from my incompetent manager. The next time I run into this situation again, I know not to voice my concerns and just start looking for a new job. There is no point disagreeing because it is alway you that will lose no matter the outcome. People like sweet talkers, not naysayers. Let them find out themselves when the hard way.

P.s. after I left, my manager couldn’t ship anything for 1 full year. It turns out, I was the only one keeping the boat afloat.

Re: Toxic Workers Are More Productive, But the Price Is High

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post #222

I have recently been labeled a “brilliant jerk” at a FAANG company and threatened with termination. In actuality I now know that I have acted like this (not always but sometimes) and I take ownership of it. In trying to come to terms with it, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I think the research is overly simplistic particularly when it comes to motivation. I am not a psychopath and I am not purely self interest…

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Although I understand your point of view, you are being as condescending as you claim he is.

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I don't think that's entirely true. I think the idea that the only way to "win" in business is by pushing others aside is incorrect. This thinking assumes that the economy is a zero sum game and there's plenty of reason to question that assumption. There are certainly elements in the economy that take value from others without creating any value in the process, but there are also people / companies that get wealthy b…

US Productivity grows by 2% a year which suggests in aggregate, most people are playing a zero sum game.

I think productivity is better conceived as the first derivative of value wrt. time. So productivity growth is the second derivative. It’s good news if that number is positive at all.

Re: Toxic Workers Are More Productive, But the Price Is High

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typically, "toxic" employees are created by management failing to control other employees...these "other" employees typically seek to exploit smart, hard-working co-workers so they can do less work themselves...this dysfunctional dynamic is created by management malpractice...and results in the creation of many "toxic" employees...

Re: Toxic Workers Are More Productive, But the Price Is High

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I have recently been labeled a “brilliant jerk” at a FAANG company and threatened with termination. In actuality I now know that I have acted like this (not always but sometimes) and I take ownership of it. In trying to come to terms with it, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I think the research is overly simplistic particularly when it comes to motivation. I am not a psychopath and I am not purely self interest…

I appreciate your comment; it gives me hope that formerly toxic people can change.

EDIT: toxic might be too strong; let's say difficult to work with.

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I have recently been labeled a “brilliant jerk” at a FAANG company and threatened with termination. In actuality I now know that I have acted like this (not always but sometimes) and I take ownership of it. In trying to come to terms with it, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I think the research is overly simplistic particularly when it comes to motivation. I am not a psychopath and I am not purely self interest…

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Reading through your comment history seems like your comments trend like this one. I wonder how it feels to be so righteous. If you have this attitude maybe you ought to hold a mirror up to yourself; you might just find that you’re every bit as toxic as you claim this person to be.
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