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Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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post #87

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They are nothing because they don't exist. When was the last time you saw a pro-Google/Alphabet article?

When was the last time Google did something that was worth promoting that wasn't just an attempt to acquire and exploit more personal data?

Are you okay?

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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I started using DDG as my default search engine about 6 months ago, and for 95% of the searches I do it's totally fine. I don't know why people think that DDG needs to "stop" Google; did people think that Lycos and Infoseek and Yahoo couldn't coexist back in the 90's? I think it's good that both companies have some competition from each other.

Just curious, what would you say the majority of your searches are category wise? Do you use it for a lot of local searches (finding restaurants) or more for tech/programming?

Seems like everyone’s has a different experience with DDG. But it’s sounds like it’s better in some categories than other stuff.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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It's not just duckduckgo that's privacy focused. https://startpage.com is rad [0]. I've moved to using it from duckduckgo and haven't felt I've missed Google, at all. They pay Google to proxy their non-personalized search results, and let you view webpages "anonymously" [1], as well. [0] https://www.startpage.com/en/search/download-startpage-plugi... [1] https://www.startpage.com/en/search/proxy-help.html

And more importantly startpage.com is a European service while DDG is an American service. It's extremely important for us in HN community to keep promoting European services regardless of product considerations because anything American is by definition toxic and should not exist.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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I've switched to DDG and I've hardly looked back. Google's search has been seriously declined in quality. Most search operators [1] are no longer supported. Even those directly in the "tools" menu don't work. For example if you search "Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyways site:medium.com", and set a custom date range to sometime last year. You'll see results which state this blog post was posted in 2…

Searching by filetype seems to still work fine, e.g.: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+filetype:pdf

I find it to be an awesome way of finding a document that's actually a few page long list of random document titles, one of which happen to be the one you're searching for.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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Back in the day, before I just defaulted to using Google, I remember checking multiple search engines to find the thing I was looking for. You'd check Yahoo/Google/Lycos, try a couple of different phrasings, and then if that didn't work try searching on a few other search engines. Somewhere along the way, Google had won me over, because I almost always found my answer. I had stopped even considering other search engi…

I've resisted for many years, but I use ddg more and more for streaming movies ilegally and for porn. For some reason google is heavily censored so that works great.

Now if I am using DDG that much, it must be that they're doing something right and that something is happening for them.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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You know what can stop google? a search engine that assumes I want every word in my query, or even better a search engine that honors a string in quotes to mean these words in this order. When did google stop doing this? edit: This wouldn't stop google, it would just make that part of my life as easy as it was 10 years ago.

Google have become masters at not knowing when enough is enough. Remember when Google Maps was great? Not perfect, and not quite as pretty as it is now. But it sure did work well and was a hell of a lot faster than it is now.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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post #112

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I wish I could tell ddg that I only care about postgresql. It seems heavily skewed to oracle/ms server when searching anything sql related. Perhaps because it's powered by Bing?

I wish I could tell DDG that I don't give a shit about Python 2.7. Stop linking me to the Python 2 doc! I haven't used Python 2 in five years!

You do realize what you're asking for is personalization, right?

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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post #197

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I'm actually a little surprised that DDG doesn't at least do IP geolocation to provide more locally-relevant results. I'd hardly consider that "tracking" or any kind of privacy invasion, since it's so trivial to correlate an IP with a location, and they don't need to store any data about visitors to do this. (Yes, I know, geo IP databases aren't perfect, and people using VPNs will get incorrect results. But for most…

We do use IP geolocation for local searches, so it sounds like our triggering is not detecting the context correctly. Would you mind sharing the search query please (if you’re comfortable), so I can take a look? As an example, something like “pizza near me” should work: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pizza+near+me In terms of protecting privacy, you’re right, we don’t need to store the IP address (or any personal data), s…

FWIW, I do recall DDG regularly giving me results for Melbourne, Florida (when I actually want Melbourne, Australia).

E.g. if I search for "Melbourne" rel="nofollow">https://duckduckgo.com/?q=melbourne+restaurant&t=ffab&atb=v1... Restaurant", the first result is FL.

"Melbourne Indian Restaurant" is a bit better, but half of the front page results are still FL.

"Melbourne weather" always used to return FL, but that looks like its been fixed.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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post #177

I wish they got domain like ddg.io|ai|... [that appear to be available too]. It would be so much easier to quickly type that in when DDG doesn't happen to be a default search engine somewhere. Instead of typoing it in a hurry to demo it to someone.

They have duck.com and ddg.gg. Both Firefox and Chromium make wrap the url in 'www.' and '.com', so 'duck ' works.

Thanks for this! I wasn't aware of either.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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post #61

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history has mostly shown a zero-sum game when it comes to search. Didn’t all of those other search engines you listed die off? Even Bing has been mostly irrelevant in comparison to Google. Also a lot of DDG users came over because they were unhappy with some of Google’s practices. Therefore it’s natural for them to want to justify their decision as a good choice by hoping the rest of the world comes to the same concl…

> history has mostly shown a zero-sum game when it comes to search. Didn’t all of those other search engines you listed die off? Even Bing has been mostly irrelevant in comparison to Google. Also a lot of DDG users came over because they were unhappy with some of Google’s practices. Therefore it’s natural for them to want to justify their decision as a good choice by hoping the rest of the world comes to the same con…

It says that capitalism fails without anti-trust enforcement. This has been known for a long time.
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