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'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by rypskar »

darkpuma wrote: post #121
Scoundreller wrote: post #93

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Trailers should lend themselves well to the sharing economy, no? Minimal maintenance, largely stored sitting idle, no cleaning required. You don't even need to unethically deem your workers as contractors.

Trailers are a huge pain in the ass, have you ever backed up with one? I've done my fair share of trailer towing and given the choice between a trailer and a pickup, I chose the pickup every time. Trailers have a capacity advantage though. Sometimes the shit you're moving simply won't fit in a large pickup truck. In those cases though, having a truck with sufficient power to tow that trailer is still handy...

>have you ever backed up with one

Yes, every time I park it. It is much easier to learn how to back with a trailer than to learn how to drive

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by Rapzid »

c3534l wrote: post #137
Rapzid wrote: post #64

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It may be because they view the F-series as a platform. So they are adding "all-electric" as a feature to the F-series platform. Along with hybrid.

But then the sentence still isn't right. You'd have to say "We're going to add all-electric to F-Series" or "We're going to make all-electric for F-Series."

Articles are often dropped from titles:

"Were going to make (an) F-Series all-electric". It's a bit ambiguous in this case.

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Post by Symbiote »

_underfl0w_ wrote: post #63
Rapzid wrote: post #57

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In Texas, can confirm. It's also crazy how much they spend on them. Pretty much a second mortgage for a lot of people based on income.. Can fit a lot in my hatchback and would just do what they do in New Zealand on the odd occasion I need more; rent a truck or van for the day.

Also in Texas, can also confirm. My coworker dropped the phrase "Texas Cadillac" the other day. Couldn't cringe hard enough. I hope to be able to afford an electric car for my next car purchase - for now, just a tiny Mazda stick-shift. Kinda having second thoughts after reading that comment about battery production though...

In England "Chelsea tractor" means a jeep-like vehicle that never leaves paved roads.

Chelsea is a very fancy area of London. The kind of place Prince Harry went to party.

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Post by amyjess »

sandworm101 wrote: post #155
H1Supreme wrote: post #144

Hopefully they make a version that isn't absolutely gigantic. I've wanted a basic, no-frills 4x4 pickup truck with a 6 foot bed for years now. Problem is, they're all gigantic. And, they all have back seats! Ford released a new Ranger, which is nearly large as everything else out there. In the late 80's / early 90's there were all types of small trucks on the road (including the ranger). Now, there's zero options in…

Because the pickup isn't a work vehicle. It is a statement, a bit of fashion. That's where the market is. People want to look like they need a pickup. In reality, they would be better served by a minivan. They are why every truck has back seats. A more honest answer is probably to get the smallish SUV and buy a trailer. An 8'x4' metal trailer, with full wheels, will let you haul the wood/stuff those few times a year…

I wonder if there would be a market for a company to do aftermarket conversions of the Ford Transit Connect into a Ridgeline-esque pickup truck.

Too bad Ford doesn't import the even smaller Transit Courier, though...

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Post by amyjess »

Symbiote wrote: post #223
_underfl0w_ wrote: post #63

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Also in Texas, can also confirm. My coworker dropped the phrase "Texas Cadillac" the other day. Couldn't cringe hard enough. I hope to be able to afford an electric car for my next car purchase - for now, just a tiny Mazda stick-shift. Kinda having second thoughts after reading that comment about battery production though...

In England "Chelsea tractor" means a jeep-like vehicle that never leaves paved roads. Chelsea is a very fancy area of London. The kind of place Prince Harry went to party.

I suppose the equivalent US term is "mall crawler".

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Post by slededit »

nichos wrote: post #157
slededit wrote: post #115

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I’m guessing your not happy with Ford and GM’s all new aluminum beds then?

GM doesn't have an aluminum bed, still steel. What GM and Chevy have that's aluminum is anything with a hinge. So, doors, hook and tailgate. The bed itself is still steel.

Interesting. Just looking at the diagram of the 2019 Silverado that’s a lot of mixing of dissimilar metals. In the ford it’s a pretty clear demarcation point that’s easy to electrically isolate.

It will be curious to see how all the brands stack up corrosion wise in the next few years.

I guess GM couldn’t stomach using an aluminum bed after the 2016 ad campaign against ford.

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Post by dwd »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #201
H1Supreme wrote: post #144

Hopefully they make a version that isn't absolutely gigantic. I've wanted a basic, no-frills 4x4 pickup truck with a 6 foot bed for years now. Problem is, they're all gigantic. And, they all have back seats! Ford released a new Ranger, which is nearly large as everything else out there. In the late 80's / early 90's there were all types of small trucks on the road (including the ranger). Now, there's zero options in…

I used to drive a 1982 Datsun 720 truck. It was such a convenient town truck. It had a 1.6 L engine in it (which wasn't very fuel efficient as it was 30 years old), and wasn't any larger than a sedan. Yet you could still fit practically anything you'd ever need in the back. The only disadvantage in the design was that the cab was sized for small Japanese people. I'm only 5'10" and I felt uncomfortable sitting in it f…

It's the same as we used to have panel vans based on the sedan/ute wheelbase but they quietly disappeared and it's now 1t trays with a canopy or high roof vans like a Hiace.

Maybe the hot ute will make a comeback someday...

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/honda-civic-type-r-ute-conc...

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Post by baddox »

H1Supreme wrote: post #144

Hopefully they make a version that isn't absolutely gigantic. I've wanted a basic, no-frills 4x4 pickup truck with a 6 foot bed for years now. Problem is, they're all gigantic. And, they all have back seats! Ford released a new Ranger, which is nearly large as everything else out there. In the late 80's / early 90's there were all types of small trucks on the road (including the ranger). Now, there's zero options in…

Why do you want a smaller truck? Is it just to make parking easier? My impression is that the reason the compact truck mostly died off (or got larger) is that the fuel economy of the larger vehicles improved to the point that the smaller trucks had little advantage.

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Post by TylerE »

burlesona wrote: post #211
abawany wrote: post #174

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Also, the redesigned Ford Ranger, similar in size to the Colorado, is now available.

Today’s Ranger and Colorado are about the size that the F-150 and Silverado we’re back in the 90s. The obesity epidemic has hit trucks pretty hard.

The price of being able to survive a 60mph collision.

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Post by greglindahl »

geggam wrote: post #180
cure wrote: post #132

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Yeah. If you actually want to pull something heavy - or just want to accelerate fast - that flat torque curve you get from an electric motor will leave ICE trucks in the dust.

Agreed. However your battery will die very quickly and leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. I had to take a couple home who were on the side of the mountain coming home from half moon bay to the pennisula. The gauge told them they had 40 miles left on the battery but that mountain climb killed it. If they had a gas car I could have poured them a bit from a can. As it was they had to get a tow and I drove the…

Or, you could use the nav system of your car to get an accurate estimate of battery usage. I've driven that exact route repeatedly, the nav estimate was spot on.
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