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SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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Re: SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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Layoff by email is like breakup via text message. The end result is the same and either way it sucks but certainly doing it in face to face seems to generally be considered more personal and perhaps less cowardly.

Romantic, business and employment relationships aren't the same thing. At all. Do you collect resumes from your dates?

Its kinda the same thing, what you put on your online profile at dating site work like a resume.

Re: SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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Some think you should do this annually. "Back when he was running GE, Jack Welch famously argued that leaders should fire the bottom 10 percent of their workforce each year, as part of an orderly continuous improvement process." https://www.inc.com/paul-b-brown/should-you-fire-10-of-your-...

Ah the glory of the stack ranking. Microsoft did this as well, and it was much celebrated when they stopped, as the stack ranking had a lot of effects that had nothing to do with performance (like coworkers stonewalling each other, or infighting, and what do you do with an org of rockstars).

Rockstars don't like moving the amps.

No cooperation within teams (one of you has to go, one of you gets a good bonus, the rest get nothing).

No cooperation between teams either (for similar reasons, and besides, you're busy enough trying to shine within your team).

Any innovation that requires a solid team and cooperation just doesn't happen. Lots of innovation that can be done by just one or two people doesn't get approval from mgmt because they don't get it and are busy measuring the wrong things.

So you're forgoing all the best innovations while building a toxic work environment. Your best and brightest will either stay and game the system, or go elsewhere and be happier.

Stack ranking is a highly destructive tool of management. I would recommend it to my competitors, and only to my competitors.

Re: SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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Not to mention that eventually you end up firing some really smart people and find worse replacements (not in the least due to shitty reputation - but also because of regression to the mean and because people are biased towards hiring worse than themselves in this regime). Definitely so at 10% p.a. if you're in a remotely niche industry.

Additionally, when the stack ranking is done at the first or second-level manager (which is usually the case), you end up making sub-optimal decisions. Meaning: the bottom 10% on team A may be better than the top 20% of team B. Which then leads A-players to seek to work on B-teams, so they can be on the top of the stack ranking. Stack ranking is a failed experiment, and by now I think all companies realize that.

It won't be over until Harvard, Wharton, and all the other top business schools teach that stack ranking is destructive. Jack Welch is a blithering idiot if he still believes in stack ranking. I've a feeling that the reason a CEO of a company like GE would like stack ranking is the false sensation of control it must give them. In reality, one of the key reasons you have managers in the first place is that management is a people problem, so you need people to manage people, and managers need to get to know the people they manage.

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If you are affected by the layoffs in Los Angeles, working in software engineering (esp. on ERP and internal tools), UI/UX, or supply chain — my company, Lumi is hiring https://www.lumi.com/jobs

Checking in. Spent 6 years at X and this sounds interesting.

Re: SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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If you are affected by the layoffs in Los Angeles, working in software engineering (esp. on ERP and internal tools), UI/UX, or supply chain — my company, Lumi is hiring https://www.lumi.com/jobs

Checking in. Spent 6 years at X and this sounds interesting.

If you are curious you can read more about us here:

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If you don't find something that fits in our job listings you can also name your own job:

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I would think SpaceX isn't like most large, stable companies as their primary goal is the colonization of Mars.

First we need a self-sufficient Antarctic colony. Any takers?

When we establish a Mars colony it will probably take centuries before it's truly self-sufficient. I don't see the point of starting with a self sufficient colony on Earth, especially if the challenges are quite different from Mars.

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I would think SpaceX isn't like most large, stable companies as their primary goal is the colonization of Mars.

First we need a self-sufficient Antarctic colony. Any takers?

The Antarctic is actually heavily protected by treaties preventing colonisation and exploitation of resources.

This all goes up for grabs when the treaties expire in a few decades and it's presently an environmental issue to try and get them resigned rather than have an oil rush there.

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You can't when you're dealing with 6000+ people. Likely even the managers didn't know so as to avoid feeding the rumor mill. They'll now need to make up their minds about their reports whom they wouldn't mind losing.

No way are the managers going to all stay late on Friday and figure out who to fire on Saturday. Those discussions have already happened, and they know who is being let go.

This is Musk we're talking about here. He might have decided this over lunch a few hours before the announcement.

Re: SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce

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Sounds like 90% of their employees will be working an extra 10% more hours per week

i've done a lot of contract work for spacex. imo i think part of the reason they work so much is because they have no formal methods group. everyone seems to solve similar problems in slightly different ways instead of having a vetted and documented 'right' way to approach certain things. i've literally been paid to write code that does the same thing for different groups in slightly different ways. having done a lot…

Email elon@spacex.com and suggest it.
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