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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by Ono-Sendai »

speeq wrote: post #115
codezero wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

would be interesting to know the relative trajectory – would help determine if it was a known satellite reentry or on a typical orbit of debris (lots of periodic comets have well known debris trails, they form most of the "meteor showers" that happen yearly.)

Maybe it's something from the recent Rocket Lab launch?

The rocket lab launch was south from New Zealand - and there aren't many planes flying around down there as far as I know.

I'm guessing only the final stage would still be airborne/in space once it orbited around to populated areas. And the second/final stage should be deliberately de-orbited for exactly this reason, right?

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Post by cmroanirgo »

credit_guy wrote: post #216
cmroanirgo wrote: post #190

A lot of people typically have a "Where's the proof?" wrt UFOs. However, there is Dr Steven Greer who in 2001 fronted a 'Disclosure Project' in which many people from positions of authority (eg FAA chiefs, Tower operators, Military pilots, etc) stated quite clearly on National Press Club in Washington their testimony on UFO's. [0] Since then, he's been often quoted as saying that there's such an abundance of proof th…

Call me not convinced. https://xkcd.com/1235/

Fair enough, but you can't really trust what's posted as video/photo evidence these days:

https://youtu.be/Fm8FJ8la2VU

I'd go for sworn affidavits with independently verifiable credentials for things like this. Dr Greer has collected thousands of data points on this topic, however.

(Perhaps you haven't watched the 3rd link posted above, which is >1.5hr interview with a Richard Doty from OSI whose job it was to discredit/cover up/investigate all of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZMgbXNSBs

Also, the news wouldn't get out anyway:

"So, every news agency, every television and radio station in the Albuquerque and Santa-Fe area had our snitches in there... we paid them good money" 1:24)

edit: added relevant quote from doco.

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Post by motohagiography »

HillaryBriss wrote: post #128
motohagiography wrote: post #46

It it were aliens, they are probably making contact with the cephalopod population under the sea to see if they have developed technology yet, and in this planets case they've found another monkey hominid infestation in one of those rare millennia before its civilizations manage to collectively off themselves.

Maybe the aliens want to communicate with the cephalopods anyway simply because their brains and consciousness are more interesting than ours. I mean, maybe. I don't know. Could be. I've never talked to one.

The cephs are better suited to space travel owing to their ability to survive cryogenisis, replication of their memories and intelligence throughout their bodies, no need for gravity, ability to breed i large numbers and transmit information to offspring. Hominids are a peculiarity of adapting to a given planet, where the cepholopods are adaptable to more common environments in the universe.

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Post by deadbunny »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #103
matthewwiese wrote: post #95

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What a bizarre comparison, albeit a novel rebuttal! I do think your argument rests too much on the typical assumptions/biases a human brings to the table given our experience in this specific time and place. See my reply to andrewflnr for a nuanced response. Also, I do walk a lot! About 4 miles daily in fact. People in cars also happen to be assholes to each other. And to wildlife. Heck, they can even be assholes to…

You seem to assume folks in spaceships would be scientists or part of a Star Trek like organized fleet. But what if some of them are tourists? Americans in cars aren't part of some elite professional military or scientific service. Most Americans have cars. It's the norm here. And being a driver of a car in no way guarantees they are well educated, sophisticated, civilized types. There are even people driving illegal…

4chan on holiday.

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Post by jen729w »

sixdimensional wrote: post #63
lend000 wrote: post #6

Do any airlines have high-def video cameras on planes? Seems like something that would be financially feasible with modern technology and would provide very useful data for unexplained phenomena like this. I imagine I'm not the only one who would pay to subscribe for a streaming service for airline footage, even when there aren't UFO sightings to examine.

Actually, yes, some newer aircraft have high-def video cameras mounted on the tail and on the belly of the aircraft, and the video stream is streamed into the aircraft so that passengers can see the "outside view" on in-flight entertainment systems. The only thing is I believe the the cameras often get turned off in the middle of the flight when the boring part is going on.. Here's a YouTube example of a tail camera…

"High-def" they are not.

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Post by DennisP »

eksemplar wrote: post #181
kromem wrote: post #164

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The time travel argument I've always found to be far more compelling than the extra terrestrial argument. For example, similarity of physical form (with exaggerated evolutionary aspects relating to modern society, such as bigger eyes/brains, and diminished aspects that would be obsolete, such as weakened physical strength). And in a universe where different systems could be billions of years different in age, the UFO…

Can you time travel without being able to alter your location in space? I mean, the earth is moving pretty fast, if you popped back a few hours, wouldn’t you land in empty space?

I think relativity makes this impossible; you're essentially saying there's a particular trajectory that has an absolute velocity of zero. Relativity is founded on the idea that there's no such thing; any trajectory has an equal claim to be the zero velocity.

Maybe time travel would stay in the same reference frame, so if you're on the Earth's surface you end up in the same position on the Earth. On the other hand if you're on an object that experiences non-gravitational directional changes in the span of your time travel, you might be in trouble.

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Post by PuffinBlue »

minota wrote: post #80
evilturnip wrote: post #23

I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…

Interesting. A possible explanation for some strange and poorly understood phenomenon accompanied by bright lights could be "earthquake lights", bright lights that appear in the sky around the time of an earthquake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEwKrvepH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4 Not to say that it applies to this particular case. Just goes to show that there is much to this natural world we do…

Does anyone actually take the 'evidence' in those videos seriously?

At 1:50 in that first video, the 'light' occurs and then amazingly the electricity goes off.

What a coincidence that is.

Also coincidentally the 'light' has similar colour characteristics to the arc flash of a high voltage electrical line/transformer shorting out.

And coincidentally at 4:40 the same scenario repeats!

It would have repeated again in the first minute if they'd been closer to the electrical circuit that faulted out.

The rest of the videos appear as borderline CGI (floodlights washed out in truck area)or some video of clouds.

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Post by PuffinBlue »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #202
trainingaccount wrote: post #145

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Now that everybody has a cellphone camera there are fewer UFO sitings instead of more, so it seems.

Now everyone has a smartphone maybe they're looking down instead of up.

Then the dashcams would capture it. Just like they did for that Russian meteorite.

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

krapp wrote: post #200
fit2rule wrote: post #171

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We also know that MK ULTRA and programs very similar to it, have been continued to present day.

> We also know that MK ULTRA and programs very similar to it, have been continued to present day. Do we though? People assume so, because it fits a paranoid narrative that allows them to "mind control" people, but I'm not aware of any actual proof that MK ULTRA or "programs very similar to it" continue to the present day. As far as I know the program was a failure, like experiments in remote viewing and attempts to s…

On the other hand, it would be naive to assume that an agency that once performed such experiments would have compunctions about performing similar experiments today.
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