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Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by bliblah »

As much as I hate the Facebook hegemony; I can only say "Good Riddance". Me and my circle of friends tried it out on release and to this day it still a UX nightmare in how it presents/displays posts.

It's a classic case of google dipping their toes in a service and if they don't reach critical mass in 3 months just ignore it until it becomes a liability and shut it down quietly. I would love to hear if they ever pushed updates for it or just had some intern maintaining the code up until now.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by bliblah »

mindcrime wrote: post #80
jonknee wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> never depend on anything from Google They're shutting it down precisely because no one was depending on it. How would anyone depend on a social network without any users?

They're shutting it down precisely because no one was depending on it. How would anyone depend on a social network without any users? It did have users. I have no idea the exact number, and clearly it wasn't as many as Facebook, but it wasn't the ghost town people always made it out to be. Some of the Communities were actually quite active.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45792349

> "The consumer version of Google+ currently has low usage and engagement: 90% of Google+ user sessions are less than five seconds."

While i'm sure power law applies, 5 seconds is a hilariously low amount of engagement for the 90%

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by rikkus »

cronz wrote: post #41
_uhtu wrote: post #6

Google+ had terrible marketing and release, but it had some decent ideas that I wish other networks had carried over. The idea of "circles", where you had a circle for "acquaintances" "friends", "family" would be great on, say, Facebook, as it would allow me to filter down my feed to just the people I really care about but still have a connection to more distance acquaintances. Currently on Facebook the news feed is…

The idea of circles sounds fantastic on paper but it's simply too much work for the common user. For most of the posts users would make, users would probably spend more time thinking about which circles to enable than actually writing the post. It's a headache and it leads to a poor experience, it feels like a hurdle, something you must do; it makes posting less natural. Facebook on the other hand offers the same fun…

WhatsApp groups seem to be popular

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by myth_buster »

cronz wrote: post #41
_uhtu wrote: post #6

Google+ had terrible marketing and release, but it had some decent ideas that I wish other networks had carried over. The idea of "circles", where you had a circle for "acquaintances" "friends", "family" would be great on, say, Facebook, as it would allow me to filter down my feed to just the people I really care about but still have a connection to more distance acquaintances. Currently on Facebook the news feed is…

The idea of circles sounds fantastic on paper but it's simply too much work for the common user. For most of the posts users would make, users would probably spend more time thinking about which circles to enable than actually writing the post. It's a headache and it leads to a poor experience, it feels like a hurdle, something you must do; it makes posting less natural. Facebook on the other hand offers the same fun…

> The idea of circles sounds fantastic on paper but it's simply too much work for the common user.

Google has ML based version of circle where depending on who is on the photo or whom you have added as recipient it suggests additional recipients.

To me that is a better UX.

a. They don't have to explicitly create circles.

b. If you keep adding someone new or remove someone over a period of time, the model would learn that and act accordingly.

c. If user wants to explicitly create a circle, they can probably do it as a group.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by cpeterso »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #102

packets to packets, bits to bits. I am not surprised they are killing the service, and I'm reminded of all the damage it did to the company both inside and out[1]. If there is one thing I could say I miss about not working at Google it is seeing how the organization internalizes what they did and why. These sorts of things can teach a lot of really good lessons to an organization if the retrospective is done well. I…

It seems like Google could have successfully built a "shadow social network" by incrementally integrating their popular services like Gmail, Inbox, Reader, YouTube, Hangouts, and chat into one portal. OTOH, Buzz tried to inject social sharing into Gmail and there was a big user backlash.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by colonelxc »

0xmohit wrote: post #36

> Google is shutting down its long-neglected Facebook competitor Google+ following the disclosure of a vulnerability that could have resulted in third-party developers accessing private data from around 500,000 users, the company announced Monday. Source: https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/google-plus-shut-down-...

That is in this post.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by eel »

This is the big surprise to me:

> Finding 2: People want fine-grained controls over the data they share with apps.

While I personally 100% agree, I would have guessed that the vast majority of Google users (i.e., non-HN crowd) wouldn't care about fine-grained controls. I wonder if they found that some people passionately care and most didn't care one way or another. In other words, perhaps the people that click/tap through permissions prompts are going to continue clicking through, but the change could win back some privacy conscious consumers.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by dvlsg »

notahappycamper wrote: post #217
kwillets wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The milk is always at the back of the store.

That is where the loading bays are, so they keep the fridges nearby so cold items have less chance to heat up. Plus milk is often stocked from behind, which can only be done where they have the extra space at the back of the store.

Not to mention you probably want to pick it up last, so it stays colder longer. This way you don't have to carry milk around the store while you look for all the other items you need.

Although, maybe that's an argument for putting it by the checkout lines instead, which I suppose are by the entrance. Hm.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by [deleted] »

justicezyx wrote: post #168
cletus wrote: post #99

This is Vic Gundotra's legacy and perhaps the first major strategic decision Larry Page made in the post-Eric Schmidt era and it was the design and launch of Google+ and (IMHO) it marked a turning point in the company's culture. Internal resistance to aspects of G+ was enormous. People outside the company get this idea that Google acts as some kind of singleminded (possibly nefarious) entity when "herding cats" is so…

Not relevant, but "the fish rots from the head" is relevant to Chinese? I cannot find any explanation of that connection. Just curious.

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