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Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Sure, there's a policy, but who cares? People need to quit meddling in the affairs of others. If a relationship is consensual what's the issue? If we're spending a significant part of our waking hours at work, it should be a baked in assumption that at some point, some coworkers are going to end up in a romantic relationship together. Hell, the majority of my significant romantic relationships started out as consensu…

There's a few reasons. Don't forget, it wasn't just two equal coworkers: it was the most powerful man in the company.

First, he agreed – it was in his contract he couldn't do it.

Second, oftentimes it's hard to tell how consensual it is when there's a large imbalance of power. Was it completely consensual? Maybe. But companies have a no-tolerance policy because it's hard to tell, and you don't want managers going around making subordinates uncomfortable, or employees taking advantage of managers.

Third, he now has an explicit bias toward a single employee.

He doesn't deserve to be blacklisted and grouped in with sexual harassers, however he did violate his contract and brought his fate at Intel upon himself.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

#222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krzanich also presided during the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities for which Intel's messaging left much to be desired. Krzanich is also suspected by some to have engaged in insider trading. [0] https://news.alphastreet.com/chipmaker-giant-intels-ceo-bria...

Perhaps he was selling coz he figured the relationship will surface soon and wanted out ?

Or the reverse?

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

#223
Typical Intel - act like nothing is wrong until you get caught (Compiler gamery, violating your own internal company policies, etc.)

This is one of the reasons I left Intel behind 20 years ago. Only Intel systems I have currently were given to me. It was apparent back then that Intel had no real morals or ethics, and it continues to show now with the CEO having been ousted violating company conduct of which, in his position, he should've been well aware.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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post #165

Relationships among employees are very hard to keep concealed -- especially so when you're in a very exposed position, as a CEO is. At some point, somebody is going to notice something. If this is the case, then I'm pretty sure that this knowledge had reached the board long before. Rumors spread fast, after all. That leaves me to wonder as to the timing of this action. Krzanich received a lot of flak over the past mo…

Like the insider trading thing that somehow never was investigated?

I was thinking this too.

If insider trading as obvious as his wasn't prosecuted, it paints the picture that it's only ever prosecuted for political reasons. Which is maybe more true than one would hope.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A relationship between a manager and someone they manage compromises the effectiveness of both the manager and the team. As CEO, he is everyone's boss, so having a consensual relationship with anyone involved in the organisation is a bad thing. If she got promoted, would it be because of her work, or her relationship with the boss? If she didn't get promoted, would it be because of her attitude, or her relationship w…

Then why not ban friendships in the workplace? Surely they could result in the same kind of perceived biases (e.g. cliques).

surely you can list the differences between a romantic / physical relationship and a purely platonic one and understand why it is bad when it comes to imbalances in power right?

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the…

I don't disagree with the wider point but > I could replace my 6-year old Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what's out there that's significantly better at a reasonable cost? AMD Ryzen 7 1700 for $200. ~10% faster single core and you get 8C/16T. DDR4 RAM is quite expensive, though. (closest available benchmarks, 1700 is about 3% slower than 2700) [0]: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2111 [1]: https:…

Single core speed is near equal on 3770 and 1700 but you get 2x the cores with 1700.

So if you can benefit from 8Cores (ie compiling for one) then it is a nice upgrade.

If you rarely utilize all 4 cores on your 3770 then it is a pointless upgrade.

That is the thing, going from a single core to 2 core pretty much benefited everyone. Heck PentiumHT was a big thing.

Going from 2 core to 4 cores took longer to show benefits and 4 cores to 8 cores is going to be slower still to show benefits for most users.

At the end of the day single core speed has been stagnating for the last 6 years every since Sandy Bridge which was the last big jump.

I mean I plan on buying AMDs ThreadRipper 2 32 core chip since it will be of benefit to me for running 100 copies of the same program.

Still those 32 cores will not help with regular computing.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

#228

It was stupid of him to do. The executive suite of large companies is very Game of Thrones. Why leave a knife around for someone to stab you in the back? Of course people knew. And then they were “shocked!!” to formally find out. This is a serious thing. What if you knew about the relationship, and the other person was promoted over you? I worked at a place where 2 colleagues had an open/secret relationship. One was…

Knowing or suspecting may not be same as able to prove it. It might still ruin the career if your allegation go nowhere and board does not act.

Yes. It’s a knife that is very dangerous to pick up. That’s why an item from long ago can linger. (I have no non-public information in this case)

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

#229

Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market" while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the m…

> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the…

Have you looked at the price and performance for AMD's threadripper and epyc series? I agree that we're nearing the end of shrinking process nodes, but their architecture is incredibly innovative

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

#230

Man, Larry Ellison handles stuff like this way better. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oracle-Boss-In-High-Tech...

He’d get fried today. This article shows exactly why companies have fraternization rules. It is not to protect the employees. It is to protect the executives from extortion, and as such, the rules should punish the subordinates just as much as the managers.
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