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Post by Kalium »

hluska wrote: post #146
Kalium wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upon careful reading of the comment to which you are responding, I found that it neatly addresses very precisely the keen, sensible, and reasonable point you have raised. Perhaps you have had an experience significantly from mine?

That comment assumes we can all agree upon a textbook definition of 'economic regulation'. An economic regulation is generally defined as any legislation or administrative act that impacts either pricing a good or entering a market. If you follow that strict, conventional (in economics circles) definition, it's tough to argue with the comment. Outside of textbooks, economic regulation has a much bigger meaning such t…

I understand where you're coming from and what you mean. I even understand why some people, reading the original comment, would stop after the confusing and inflammatory statement and not finish reading the rest of the fine comment.

It's possible that such people might be best served to read the rest of the comment and cogitate for a moment before objecting.

In this context, I found that the parent comment covers health, safety, anti-trust, and more under the umbrella of improving market function. I understand that others may have arrived at a different understanding of the comment.

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Post by knuththetruth »

ben_jones wrote: post #210
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

Reminds me of the old KGB tactic where they would have agents seduce politicians and business men into compromising (recorded) sexual situations then use it for blackmail. I find it inevitable that many acting politicians on both sides of the aisle are being manipulated in this way.

That’s the business model of Cambridge Analytica nowadays!

https://www.channel4.com/news/cambridge-analytica-revealed-t...

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Post by DoreenMichele »

ovao wrote: post #216
DoreenMichele wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Methinks you don't understand the problem space. Putting it in your profile is intended to save the afflicted from wasting tons of time and energy on a. talking with people who will immediately nope out when they learn your status and b. dealing with a lot of emotional BS from people who want to see themselves as nice but who aren't really ready to deal with you and your situation. That can be a hard enough conversat…

Given the current reality, you can do either of the following here: A) Mark yourself as HIV positive in your profile, which Grindr will share with third parties. B) Directly declare yourself as HIV-positive at some point in a conversation. I’m not suggesting there are options without drawbacks.

I imagine a lot of folks declared it in their profile without knowing it would be shared and they probably declared to try to have a more positive experience over having one dreaded discussion after another. I think those folks have reason to be upset.

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Post by api »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

I've hypothesized that the recent blast of negative press about Facebook and other social media companies like this is driven in part by the realization at the heights of US intelligence that these massive surveillance honeypots are a threat to US national security.

If that's the case I agree with them. How many people with secret and top secret clearance have exploitable (or compromised by design) 'smart' devices in their home or could be blackmailed using data in possession of these services? Then there's the whole mass election manipulation angle which just adds to the problem.

The social and 'smart device' panopticon opens the potential for a completely remote cyber-invasion and takeover of the country by a foreign actor. It would be the first full-scale invasion with not only no shots fired but no actual physical army on the ground. I don't think this is really all that sci-fi.

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Post by jschwartzi »

Jonnax wrote: post #29
jonbarker wrote: post #12

Also, many mobile users name their device their whole name, effectively deanonymizing all their app usage for the massive ecosystem of marketing companies out there. Having worked in the mobile marketing industry I was shocked at how many people were doing this and probably had no idea this was the case.

Is that an iPhone thing? I know it's not possible to set the hostname of your phone on most android phones but it's unique. Of course with Android making build versions and etc. Available to devs and in the case of chrome to your user agent. You're pretty much identifible.

Oh, but it is possible. It's buried in the networking settings but there's a phone name option which is used for just about everything.

Although on my LG devices it defaults to the series name, for example G3 for an LG G3.

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Post by wukerplank »

smacktoward wrote: post #200
rdtsc wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yikes. Combine this with the Chinese OPM hack, where extremely personal data for most government employees with security clearance has been stolen, and they have a blackmail goldmine on their hands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... They can verify what has been reported on sf-86 vs what might be found from this service. Any affairs or issues not reported are ripe for blackmail. Possibil…

Think of it as a business opportunity. Blackmail as a Service™!

The free market in full swing!

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Post by ams6110 »

Analemma_ wrote: post #196
GVIrish wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like it's only a matter of time before we see some devastating compromise(s) of security using the OPM hack and/or hacks of private data sources. When you look at some of the common methods intelligence adversaries use to ensnare assets (extortion, money, exploiting sympathies, stroking egos, revenge, etc.) the information in these hacks are a treasure trove the likes of which may never have been seen before.…

> I feel like it's only a matter of time before we see some devastating compromise(s) of security using the OPM hack and/or hacks of private data sources. I'm willing to bet that the devastating compromises thanks to the OPM hack have already happened, and that they're either classified, or, even scarier, the USG doesn't even know about them yet (e.g. people blackmailed into being spies who haven't yet been caught).

If the Chinese have compromising information, the NSA and/or CIA probably has the same and more. I think it's unlikely that we don't "know" about it, in fact could be using it as a way to turn compromised individuals into double agents.

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Post by salvar »

esilverberg2 wrote: post #203
werber wrote: post #2

Does anyone have any information on how Scruff handles that information? Also, does HIPAA say anything about technology companies outside of the medical field's data that may voluntarily collect HIV status?

CEO of SCRUFF here, and daily reader of HN. We have not, do not, and would not share this information with third parties. The data that we share with our third-party ad providers is: - Your location (so you can get those local car dealer ads) - Your gender - Your age - The targeting keyword "gay" We currently use AdMob and MoPub to provide our network advertising. More broadly, this kind of information is never somet…

How granular is the location data you share, on the scale from postcode to lat/lon?

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Post by jimmy1 »

rdtsc wrote: post #145
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

Yikes. Combine this with the Chinese OPM hack, where extremely personal data for most government employees with security clearance has been stolen, and they have a blackmail goldmine on their hands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... They can verify what has been reported on sf-86 vs what might be found from this service. Any affairs or issues not reported are ripe for blackmail. Possibil…

Why is this a blackmail goldmine? I am ignorant of Grindr, but what I have heard it is basically Tinder but for gay men. Would Tinder be blackmail data? It's hook ups and relationships, dating, etc, no?
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