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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I've started using Scuttlebutt recently (A decentralized social network, setup guide at https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ ) and it's surprisingly good. It's mostly geeks on there, and it'll still be a few years before my Mum can use it, but that's the way I like it. Facebook is mostly just a photo feed of what I'm up to for my family now.

That is exactly my fear - that people will use this as an opportunity to try to jump in and literally become the next Facebook. Not that I am opposed to a replacement... I even put together a design myself to avoid the problems we've learned in the last 10 years. But I'm not building it -- because unless it is a service that is paid, open-source, and easy enough for Grandma to use, the realities of operating such a beast are going to drive it off-course.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Indeed, people kept in touch with friends and family just fine before Facebook. And people who don't use it now also manage to keep in touch with people they care about just fine.

This says nothing. People shopped online before Amazon; watched movies before Netflix, and used smartphones before Apple started making them

This says a lot.

I miss the movies sometimes (just wish they were a bit cheaper) and binge watching is horrible for your health (not just physically but mentally as well -- teaches you how to be an addict).

Amazon, while convenient, has destroyed an entire economic subsystem in it's wake and destroyed a way of life that was more communal and social to one that is more isolated and reclusive.

Finally, people more and more these days are trying to find ways to detach from their smartphones (I think your comment wrongly assumes Apple "created" the smartphone -- they did not)

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Today I switched off the location tracking for Facebook on my Phone. I never enter the correct birthday on Facebook. Unfortunately we cann't trust any of the tech companies.There are a lot of people working and keeping track of security for now seems impossible. Anyone in the company can put in code with a security hole. May be AI in future can help in making systems secure. For now, none of the apps is secure. There…

Disable/uninstall FB from your phone completely and use https://mbasic.facebook.com in the browser instead.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I have a bad feeling that like the Snowden revelations and Occupy Wall Street these findings will actually embolden companies like Facebook and Cambridge Analytica the same way the NSA and Wall Street banks were likely emboldened because it will once again prove that after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted. They will get away with it and…

> the same way the NSA and Wall Street banks were likely emboldened because it will once again prove that after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted

Stopping the NSA or changing Wall Street requires significant political power and cooperation, stopping Facebook from snooping on you requires individuals to stop using a website and maybe install a browser extension.

They're not comparable at all.

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I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

This is a false dichotomy, Facebook is in no way required or even useful to keep in touch with anyone.

Wait, if someone tells you they find Facebook useful to keep in touch with friends, you'd tell them they're wrong?

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The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

I'd recommend deleting the app and just using the mobile site to save your battery.

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This is the only real demise of fb or any other large player. Another service catches on that is not directly competitive, and then adds features to gradually replace the incumbent.

Facebook owns Whats App. It's one of the first thing they acquired with IPO money.

Then what on earth was the WhatsApp CEO thinking when he told people to abandon Facebook?

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

I haven't logged in for about five-six months now, and FB started bothering my friends to hit me up on messenger to lure me back in.

Facebook has some really cult like behavior reinforcement: "you have posted to data in a row and people are responding"

It's like they are going out of their way to be creepy at this point.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

> The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? I'd bet my house it is the former. I think on HN we understandably make assumptions about the general population due to the bubble we live in. The reactions to other privacy scandals e.g. wikileaks or Sno…

I suppose it all depends on how much user attrition you would say constitutes a "mass exodus." How many millions of former users would that be? Or what percentage from what high-point? By these following reports, there's been a mass exodus in terms of usage among the much-sought-after teenage demographic, and that's been happening from Facebook to Snapchat for at least two years now:

Oct 2016: Snapchat Beats Instagram and Facebook as the Top Social Platform for Teens

http://www.adweek.com/digital/snapchat-beats-instagram-and-f...

May 2017: AppAnnie report: "On any given day in the US, 35% of Snapchat’s daily users cannot be reached by Facebook, 46% can't be reached by Instagram and 58% can’t be reached by Messenger" the report says.

https://mashable.com/2017/05/03/snapchat-users-facebook/#2Pm...

Oct 2017: Snapchat Furthers Its Lead As Teens’ Favorite Social Platform, BUT [Instagram is Reportedly "a Better Bet" for Marketers]

https://www.marketingcharts.com/digital/social-media-80744

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