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Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by Buldak »

QasimK wrote: post #148
nradov wrote: post #112

I think there's definitely a market for endurance athletes. Runners and cyclists would like to see time, speed, distance, cadence, power output, navigation, etc without having to look down at a wristwatch or bike computer. Those people are accustomed to spending a lot on sports equipment. There are existing products like the Everysight Raptor and Garmin Varia View but they're bulky or goofy looking or obstruct vision…

I agree in general that it would be useful in these situations. As someone who wears glasses, I find it impossible to run with them because of the movement or them just falling off. Are people who wear glasses able to run with them - am I doing something wrong?

I don't like running with glasses because they end up getting covered in salt and sweat, but I don't have a problem with them staying on. I would guess that largely depends on the frames you have.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by dwighttk »

konart wrote: post #84
maltalex wrote: post #49

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Would you love that camera if it was pointed at you? The trade-off between the convenience of having an always-on camera and living in a society in which everyone has an always-on cameras seems like a no-brainer to me. There's even a Black Mirror episode like that - "The Entire History of You".

>Would you love that camera if it was pointed at you? I'm pretty sure humanity is already past the point where this question is timely. We have many cameras watching us all day long and ten years from now there will be even more. For what it's worth, maybe this will finally teach people to thing before they act.

some people don't have "many cameras watching" us all day.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

nradov wrote: post #197
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #51

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Fitbit Ionic has a five day battery life, give or take. But a smartwatch pales in comparison to how convenient Glass was to use: I used to be able to be read and reply to texts while doing anything, including driving, safely. And not having to interrupt a conversation when I noticed the incoming call or message was unimportant was fantastic.

I don't believe that you could read and reply to texts safely while driving. That simply isn't plausible.

Glass verbally reads you the text, you verbally reply to the text. Even if you glance at the screen, it's more like an overlay than a second place to look.

Comparatively, the center console of a car is drastically less safe to look at than a heads-up display like Google Glass. We seem to accept that center displays are largely safe to use (with some functions disabled while driving).

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

lev99 wrote: post #206
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #177

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Yeah, I loved the form factor, it was the software and the cloud dependency that crippled it. I've actually been looking at a Vufine+ combined with an Intel Compute Stick to create a more customized alternative.

The Vufine+'s battery life kills that option for me. Wearables need to have a long enough battery life that you can use them most of your day without taking them in and out.

Definitely true. My impression is that I'd use it cabled with a battery pack (that could also power the Compute Stick), but since I already need micro-HDMI running off of it, that's two separate cables.

I've mentioned this idea to the Vufine team, but if they removed the battery (to lighten up the unit significantly), and switched the cable type to a USB-C that delivered both video and power, it could reasonably offload battery to an external pack, and run video along the same cable, and I'd maybe clip something on my belt and be rocking.

That being said, Vufine's current hardware isn't designed to be a day-use wearable, it's intended to be used for things like seeing the camera on a drone you're flying (which also has a very short battery life).

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

jotm wrote: post #71
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #51

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Fitbit Ionic has a five day battery life, give or take. But a smartwatch pales in comparison to how convenient Glass was to use: I used to be able to be read and reply to texts while doing anything, including driving, safely. And not having to interrupt a conversation when I noticed the incoming call or message was unimportant was fantastic.

The Fitbits look good, the Charge seems like what I'd want if it wasn't geared for fitness. I'd wear it all day long, unlike glasses... I guess if you already wear glasses, it's much easier.

The Ionic is in it's early stages, but is much more of a "smartwatch" than their previous models. I can do payments with Fitbit Pay on it, and it's their first to support third party apps, though there's only a handful at the moment.

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Post by kbenson »

yndoendo wrote: post #174
malka wrote: post #166

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what if you could record them AND live in the moment ? that's the endgame imo

Wouldn't you then be using the moment to have the potential to live in the past and not actually living in the moment?

No, not when recording is as simple as noting after the moment that you might have liked to capture that, and then telling your smart device to preserve that last 30 to 60 seconds of buffered video.

I have little to no recording of my children by myself because getting the phone out is always a pain and seems to take too long and make me miss the moment. That doesn't mean the few videos I have aren't appreciated.

The best tools enhance our natural abilities, not replace them. Having an enhanced recall function would be appreciated by many, I'm sure.

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Post by lev99 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #224
lev99 wrote: post #206

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The Vufine+'s battery life kills that option for me. Wearables need to have a long enough battery life that you can use them most of your day without taking them in and out.

Definitely true. My impression is that I'd use it cabled with a battery pack (that could also power the Compute Stick), but since I already need micro-HDMI running off of it, that's two separate cables. I've mentioned this idea to the Vufine team, but if they removed the battery (to lighten up the unit significantly), and switched the cable type to a USB-C that delivered both video and power, it could reasonably offl…

I'm not sure that the USB-C cable buys your much that some electrical tape couldn't provide. Besides usb-c being a more elegant solution.

Offloading the battery would be helpful for longer sessions. I wonder if you could either completely remove it and use pass through power or replace it with a smaller/lighter battery.

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Post by majormajor »

setr wrote: post #202
majormajor wrote: post #171

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It's definitely something that deaths and similar events make you think about, but ultimately, I also find myself asking if it would be used at all. And if it was, would it be beneficial? I have thousands of family slide photos from my grandparents. This is unusual, but they were big photography fans. Nobody looked at them for at least a decade. But about 10 years ago I had access to a nice scanner, so I digitized a…

>I think quantity is overrated, and it just becomes write-only-memory. I still take hundreds of photos for myself every year, but I doubt my kids will ever look at them for more than a few hours, max. My mother has a habit of taking a bunch of photos of an event, and posting all of them to fb, disregarding quality. Blurry shots, photos of people mid-scarfing down food, etc, it all goes up. These kinds of collections…

> In the same way, I doubt you'd have the problem having many unseen photos if you selected, and shared, the ones that were worth sharing. I doubt all of the thousands should be shared; instead you're forcing the filtering process on every individual you pass the collection to.

That's kinda the point, isn't it? Hardly anybody actually spends their time curating their possessions for future generations, yet nobody is super sad about this missing inheritance. If we thought we'd value it more, there'd be more of a market for products to manage it - instead, things like Lightroom are a small nice. "On this day..." type reminders from Facebook and the like seem to be enough.

I don't think I have a problem: I have a bunch of pictures I look at, for me. It's just nothing more than that.

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Post by jackvalentine »

oarsinsync wrote: post #215
com2kid wrote: post #192

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Fair enough. :) I imagine you have better front desk security than the places I've worked! I'd still argue that the majority of workers are under surveillance, at least in cities.

Of all the financial tech firms I know in London, only one has cameras on its staff. None of the non-financial tech workers I know have cameras on them all day. I don’t know if my anecdotes are enough to extrapolate and generalise from, but yours are enough to ensure I stay on this side of the pond.

I'd leave immediately (Australia) if my company decided to put cameras in that point at my desk, or even any of the general work area of my office.
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