A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists

Post by PeterisP » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:12 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #216

PeterisP wrote: post #205

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"when the light turns green, it becomes almost impossible for the driver to turn right, because of the bikes already there, as well as the additional bikes coming from behind, completely ignoring the right blinker on the car." Isn't that how it should be ? I'm not in DK, but in LV traffic laws in such a situation they should ignore the blinker, the driver must wait and turn right only after everyone going straight e.…

No, the law clearly says that you can never overtake a vehicle on the right - and it applies to cyclist the same as to everyone else, even if the vehicle wasn't turning right it's illegal for the cyclist to overtake it on the wrong side.

Post by kqr » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:23 AM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #197

Svip wrote: post #133

I feel a lot of commenters are simply focusing on what signs can do or what sort of junction to build, rather than focus on the fact that on high speed primary country roads, bicycles shouldn't be sharing the road with the cars. In Denmark, a lot of high speed roads (excluding motorways, of course) out in the country have separate dual-way bicycle lanes near it but not attached to it. (Example: https://i.imgur.com/dS…

Can you do 30-40 km/h on those bicycle roads or is there slow traffic such as 10-20 km/h bicycles and runners? In the latter case fast bicycles will stay on the main road no matter what. In my experience I also have much better visibility at junctions on the main road instead of on bicycle lanes that are closer to walls and hedges and have 3 or 4 meters less of buffer between me and incoming cars from the right. I'm…

Post by KozmoNau7 » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:26 AM UTC

PeterisP wrote: post #221

gambiting wrote: post #216

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No, the law clearly says that you can never overtake a vehicle on the right - and it applies to cyclist the same as to everyone else, even if the vehicle wasn't turning right it's illegal for the cyclist to overtake it on the wrong side.

Do I misunderstand your traffic laws (taken from https://www.retsinformation.dk/forms/r0710.aspx?id=158005 ) pt. 21 about overtaking, which says "... Cyklist og fører af lille knallert kan overhale køretøjer af andre arter til højre." which seems to translate that it does not apply to cyclists and they can overtake on the right? And 26.6 "...Ved svingning til højre må den kørende ikke være til ulempe for cyklister og…

Post by dingaling » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:28 AM UTC

nostrademons wrote: post #92

matte_black wrote: post #4

Wow, after all these years I finally learned the name of this phenomenon, constant bearing decreasing range. I recall a scene in the movie Sin City where two cars crash and the camera was moving in CBDR to the perpendicular car as it zoomed into the impact site. I thought it was a cool shot. Also I’ve almost hit pedestrians several times when they were obscured by my A pillar. Sometimes I wonder if I would have actua…

The Sidewinder missile is based on this phenomena. Early guided missiles attempted to home in directly on the target, bringing the bearing from centerline to zero, but they could never make the math work out right in the guidance system. The Sidewinder was the first to realize that the missile is closing in on the aircraft at some speed, and so really the angle it makes with the plane should be constant , not zero. T…

Post by pbhjpbhj » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:30 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #214

YawningAngel wrote: post #196

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That is both legal and necessary to do

I absolutely disagree. If I, as a driver, see someone in a left-only lane, it should ba absolutely safe for me to assume that they are indeed turning left - so I can safely pull out at the junction. Obviously it leads to accidents if the person then goes straight and runs into me. Being in a left-only lane is the same as indicating a turn.