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Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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I do not consider Discord to belong in that space. it is aimed at gamers and not productivity at work in that sense it is more like steam and xfire. other than that I completely agree, but it still beats people coming over to your desk every few minutes and asking questions for which you need to stop your music and drop everything immediatly.

Many companies and open source communities have migrated from Slack to Discord. How is it different, aside from marketing and playful copy?

marketing is it really. I am not sure if I could sell a tool where I am working when it states it is for gamers.

But maybe my marketing skills are just not up to the task.

I use both in a very similar way though.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

I'm basically the opposite. I cannot stand email for day-to-day work discussion, because there is effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity. Email sits in the horrible middle road between synchronous (like a phone call) or asynchronous (like a physical mailed letter). I think email works well (and seems to be designed) for the latter use case, but at work there may be an expectation o…

> effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity

How do you do that with Slack?

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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post #196

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I'm basically the opposite. I cannot stand email for day-to-day work discussion, because there is effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity. Email sits in the horrible middle road between synchronous (like a phone call) or asynchronous (like a physical mailed letter). I think email works well (and seems to be designed) for the latter use case, but at work there may be an expectation o…

> effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity How do you do that with Slack?

Slack messages that notify you (mentions and DMs) should be for time-sensitive things. Obviously that can still be abused, but I think the social expectations are much clearer than when a team uses email for everything.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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So we have all of these chat apps. Choice is never a bad thing, but this has to be somewhat beyond saturation point, no? I don't know about anyone else, but I would rather have my work chat apps resemble social media chat apps less rather than more. Fewer Gif's, fewer emojis — they can be funny and endearing in the right context, but just feel forced and obtuse in a work setting. Also, this is coming from the makers…

Try out eul:

https://eul.im

It'a native desktop client built for professionals with a focus on performance. It supports Slack, Skype, Gmail, and will soon support Stride as well.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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My only question is, which Slack alternative does not use half my CPUs and suck down my battery just to run ideally in the background?

This was the response I got from Slack 9 months ago when I asked them about this. I get 30% cpu burn if i close the slack window with a animated gif in it -------- Hi Sean, Thanks for getting in touch with your feedback. This is something which I actually raised with our engineering team the other day and it's something we have discussed in depth. For now, we don't actually have any way of knowing when the app is min…

That's weird, because Electron's BrowserWindow class emits a few events which should make this possible: 'minimize', 'hide', etc...

https://electron.atom.io/docs/api/browser-window/#event-hide

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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And before Slack there was Skype, Lync/Office Communicator, IRC, AIM, XMPP, Hangouts, and email. It's not like having a lot of chat platforms is a new thing. > I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. As soon as somebody figured out they could use something other than email lists to send messages to people in a business setting. If people get mad at you for not being available, then it has nothing to do w…

Why won't anyone else use ICQ for business with me

Look me up, 575061. =)

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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My only question is, which Slack alternative does not use half my CPUs and suck down my battery just to run ideally in the background?

Try out eul:

https://eul.im

It'a native desktop client for Skype, Slack, and many others. It's only 4 MB, it has minimal CPU usage, and can handle hundreds of thousands of messages without lag.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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> a good client What IRC client provides: - inline image uploads - multiline messages - chat search, including messages sent while your client is offline - pretty code formatting - pretty text formatting - file uploads - user management I know that IRC accomplishes something like 95% of what a team needs to communicate, but Slack absolutely shines at that last 5%. We currently use Hipchat, and it supports a lot of wh…

I really like the idea of slack; However, what happens with slack is that it gets misused. It becomes an alerting system, task tracker, logging system, code review system and I could go on... IRC is for realtime communications, other Comms are better off on GitHub Issues etc. My experience has been slack gets abused.

> It becomes an alerting system, task tracker, logging system, code review system and I could go on...

I haven't had this problem at all. We do have certain notifications trigger Hipchat alerts, but they also send out emails, etc. - Hipchat is just a convenience for that.

Maybe it's a Slack problem but not a Hipchat problem?

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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post #196

Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

I'm basically the opposite. I cannot stand email for day-to-day work discussion, because there is effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity. Email sits in the horrible middle road between synchronous (like a phone call) or asynchronous (like a physical mailed letter). I think email works well (and seems to be designed) for the latter use case, but at work there may be an expectation o…

Yeah I was another Slack-complainer until I joined an organisation without any sort of business-chat system. That's when my amnesia cleared up and I remembered just what a slog email is without a Slack-like. I remembered that email is used as chat when there's no proper chat system, that it's an unsearchable unstructured endless soup of important stuff, cat videos, unnecessary reply-all mashing, mysterious banishment to the spam folder, and wheat-to-chaff (greetings, unnecessary opening pleasantries, huge sigs) ratios that make enterprise-Java look lean. I'm in a constant state of anxiety over my inbox because I never know if I'm mistakenly ignoring or overlooking something important. In various ways, Slack ameliorated all these things for a downside that is in retrospect completely acceptable.
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