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Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by vxNsr »

quuquuquu wrote: post #2

Side topic: In the USA, what is the legal precedent for business competitors having a very similar name? If I name my social network for race car drivers "Racebook, Inc.", and my logo is a blue square with a white "r" on it, am i opening myself up to legal trouble?

Interestingly, right after YouTube became popular a ton of -tube websites popped up, it was before they were bought by Google so they didn't have the money to sue and I'm guessing by the time Google bought them they probably no longer had a good case.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by Can_Not »

skrowl wrote: post #197
Can_Not wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Antifa is specifically against free speech Antifa is specifically against fascism. Some sects may also be against free hate speech.

A central tenent of facism is forcible suppression of opposing views through censorship or violence. What would you say Antifa is doing when they attack people with bike locks, throw bottles of urine on them, etc? 'Antifa is specifically against free speech' is provably correct. They are intolerant of any views they disagree with to the point of inciting violence to suppress those views. Look beyond their name standi…

I'm not sure I understand your point. Would you not use bike locks, bottles of urine, etc. if a known hostile enemy was advocating for the ethnic cleansing of your fellow Americans?

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by chasing »

pamqzl wrote: post #175
chasing wrote: post #57

You know why Reddit and Twitter became some toxic environments? Because they're not designed for healthy community development. And neither is this. It's a mindless clone and it already looks like it's turning toxic.

If there's one neologism I'd love to get rid of, it's the use of "toxic" to describe speech that you dislike. It's all over this thread. Think about what the metaphor of "toxicity" does for speech. By all means, you can find speech to be disagreeable, or annoying, or factually or morally wrong. I read all sorts of things that I disagree with, and some that I find actively annoying. But the metaphor of "toxicity" impl…

Toxic != controversial.

Toxic means poisonous. Toxicity in communities spoils the community because people place bickering, verbal fighting, and beating other people at insults over communicating ideas, debating, and respecting one another. It damages and will eventually kill a community as people get upset and then tune out and go other places. And if they don't feel they can go elsewhere, they'll feel stuck, wounded, and bitter.

Hate speech is an example of toxic behavior. At least, that's the reason awful people use it: It's a disruption. It distracts people and angers people so they act out in their own possibly negative ways. It's the whole MO of people like Mile and Ann Coulter: Say offensive things, but then attempt take the high road when people get visibly upset. It's a pattern that can quickly convert otherwise healthy communities into group of screaming upset people. That's toxic.

So, yes, "toxic" is a great word. And communities should protect themselves from toxic behavior.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by chasing »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #146
chasing wrote: post #57

You know why Reddit and Twitter became some toxic environments? Because they're not designed for healthy community development. And neither is this. It's a mindless clone and it already looks like it's turning toxic.

It's not a "design" issue. Just put enough people together and anything becomes toxic eventually.

That's actually not true. A lot of thought has gone into healthy community building -- both on- and offline. But, yes, it can be easy to get wrong. Takes work. Which online communities (especially) oftentimes seem either unwilling or unable to do. (Or they're oblivious that it needs to be done at all.)

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by 1787 »

pjc50 wrote: post #206
pamqzl wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there's one neologism I'd love to get rid of, it's the use of "toxic" to describe speech that you dislike. It's all over this thread. Think about what the metaphor of "toxicity" does for speech. By all means, you can find speech to be disagreeable, or annoying, or factually or morally wrong. I read all sorts of things that I disagree with, and some that I find actively annoying. But the metaphor of "toxicity" impl…

> best dealt with by not reading them If A is discussing with B their plans for my murder, or creating fictional dossiers of alleged crimes of mine and sending them to police and my employer, or sharing compromising photos without my consent, then ignoring them does not work. Less hyperbolically, it's only safe to ignore the speech of others against you so long as it has no chance of having an effect. Whether that's…

You can't just try and smudge the line between speech integral to criminal conduct and defamation and other speech. The way we avoid sliding down the slope is by requiring an immediate demonstrable harm - any fuzzy argument of the "can cause" variety is too easily applied.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by mwerd »

nthcolumn wrote: post #202
Semaphor wrote: post #150

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> or want to be associated with such a site in any way. Because I see it the same way as if you replaced Reddit with Usenet or Internet in your comment. Reddit is a platform where I care and am active only in a very small part of it.

Reddit is a business. I don't support businesses that facilitate child rape forums. You do. That's how we are different. Other businesses should not suffer for what Reddit does so I use the internet, on usenet other providers likewise, on reddit you all share the blame because you support the same business. I can't tell myself I'm only using this tiny part and those nasty people aren't anything to do with me because…

Absolutely absurd argument.

Do you use toll roads? They're a business. Criminals and even "child rapists" use them too. Can't believe you would further their ability to move about our society and evade law enforcement by willfully funding the infrastructure they use.

Get over yourself with your absolutist nonsense.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by kbenson »

Melk wrote: post #136
kbenson wrote: post #39

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> https://raddit.me/wiki/history Wow, it's been a while since I read something that full of propaganda that wasn't at least somewhat tongue-in-cheek (unless this is and I'm missing it). Not that I doubt there's at least a grain of truth to most the statements, but when someone uses "redditcorp" to describe Reddit, and says stuff like "The_Donald completely took over the site and likely propelled Donald Trump into the…

That's not propaganda. I thought HN would know better.

In what way is it not propaganda? It's exaggerated for their own benefit to further their agenda, which is to promote their reddit alternative.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by oe »

pamqzl wrote: post #176
oe wrote: post #154

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You don't have to host every opinion present in the world.

What's the point in hosting a discussion then?

Say we had a Twitter or Reddit but without the folks who eat babies. Wouldn't those still be super useful for the majority who don't eat babies? Or would they be worthless because there is some limit on the content?

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by skrowl »

Can_Not wrote: post #222
skrowl wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A central tenent of facism is forcible suppression of opposing views through censorship or violence. What would you say Antifa is doing when they attack people with bike locks, throw bottles of urine on them, etc? 'Antifa is specifically against free speech' is provably correct. They are intolerant of any views they disagree with to the point of inciting violence to suppress those views. Look beyond their name standi…

I'm not sure I understand your point. Would you not use bike locks, bottles of urine, etc. if a known hostile enemy was advocating for the ethnic cleansing of your fellow Americans?

That was just one example. The Berkley professor in that example was arrested for for felony assault of his "hostile enemy" that he picked out of a crowd because the guy had a Trump sign / shirt / hat.

If you feel that everyone who supports the president is a hostile enemy advocating for the ethnic cleansing of your fellow Americans, you should probably start getting your news from some place other than Google News / John Oliver / etc. Attacking people with opposing views is LITERALLY the definition of facism, which they claim to be against.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by belorn »

zimpenfish wrote: post #216
belorn wrote: post #215

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Short version: A ex to a female developer of a game wrote a long blog post, where in part he accused her new romantic partner who worked at Kotaku for writing a favorable review of the game. The New York Times then wrote a article about the blog post, causing a lot of attention both sides of the political spectrum where one side accused the other of sexism and the other side for a lack of journalistic ethics. The bes…

> In the end no one really cared. I think a lot of people who were - and still are - harassed by GamerGate cared about it. > Romantic entanglements is simply not worth talking about in this context. Not least because it was bullshit. > The best summery was said by totalbuscuit I'm not sure bringing him up in the context of GamerGate is ever going to come under "best" unless it also involves "apologising for being a d…

To care more about the practice of quid pro quo for exclusive early access to review is being a dick about it...

Keep fighting the gender war. I am sure your side will win by burning the heretics and eradicate the unbelievers.

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