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Post by pyroinferno »

matt4077 wrote: post #149
taurath wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general it's about story selection. 80% of the "stories of the day" are related to minority rights, empathy stories and a bunch of others. Rural white people are rarely mentioned except in the context of an environmental disaster. I like the stories myself but I definitely feel like the average conservative doesn't feel like they're included in any of the coverage.

Is it possible that you would consider any story that isn't about a white heterosexual man one of those? I'm really wondering, because I could see myself keeping a running tally like this once I thought I noticed a trend–kinda like noticing how they put pumpkin into everything in the fall. But of course, 80% is actually pretty close to the number of Americans that are not white heterosexual men. We may just have gott…

I didn't realize OP was talking only about white HETEROSEXUAL MALES. Did he edit his post and delete that part or are a mind reader? If you include white women and males of any sexual identity, your 20% reaches 60%, which is a majority of the country and even IF it reaches below 50% it's STILL the largest group.

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Post by ThomPete »

alphaalpha101 wrote: post #117
morganvachon wrote: post #18

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> I'm a Libertarian and thus social conservative and economically liberally That's fascinating; I've been called Libertarian because I'm the opposite. I'm socially progressive yet fiscally conservative, and from what I've read, there are branches of Libertarianism that can embrace either extreme or a mixture. I've listened to NPR since I was a teenager in the early 90s, and while I don't always agree with the comment…

I'm not super familiar with American politics. What do you mean by 'fiscally conservative'? You want the Government to lower taxes and lower benefits and such, is that right? Because that sort of 'the market is right, we don't need no government spending in our economy' view.. well.. that just is the same as being economically liberal. But then again Americans seem to use 'liberal' to mean 'left-wing', is that right?…

Fiscally conservative means holding back on public spending and not seeing the government as the best user of societies money. So they favor lower taxes i.e. less state involvement.

Liberal means a lot of different things based on the context.

Liberal can mean a lot of different things depending on the context. The classical usage though is more individual freedom less state (from the enlightenment) the US version is more like Social Liberalism (vs. Social Conservatism).

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Post by bb611 »

0xbear wrote: post #148

Used to listen to NPR all the time, but now they just shit on Trump 24x7. It was fun in the beginning, but got old after a few weeks. I switched to audible, where I remain to this day, and will remain for the foreseeable future.

He's an easy target, and NPR has a very large political reporting apparatus that can't be easily changed to report on anything else.

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Post by DataWorker »

eighthnate wrote: post #213
RankingMember wrote: post #208

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> I also don't listen to NPR or watch foxnews as they are a terrible waste of time. You seem to have a lot to say about something you never listen to because it's a "terrible waste of time".

> You seem to have a lot to say about something you never listen to because it's a "terrible waste of time". Did I say I never listened to them? I used to as a teen and young adult. I was a big fan of NPR. Even was a supporting member and have their tote bag somewhere( WNYC is my station )... I also used to watched a bit of foxnews, but that was only at work when they had it on. But the past few years, I grew up. I w…

It's gotten so dumbed down it's painful to listen to. There are highlights such as Michael Krazny for us locals. But mostly too stupid to bother with. And though I don't watch tv, from what I gather of the Jim Lehrer Newshour on YouTube, PBS seems to be headed in the same direction. I guess it's a reflection of American culture and intellect in general. Sad.

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Post by pyroinferno »

cylinder wrote: post #216
ryandrake wrote: post #90

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For quite a while recently, Libertarian meant "Embarrassed Republican Who Doesn't Want To Admit He Votes Republican Every Election Even Though He Swears He Doesn't Like Either Candidate"

"Trust me, I'm an intellectual! I'm not like that awful Sarah Palin."

To that, they're right. The Libertarian's man, Ron Paul, refused to endorse MCcain or Obama because "because there were no real differences between them, and because neither of them, if elected, would seek to make the fundamental changes in governance that were necessary". He then went on to tell his fellow Libertarians to vote 3rd party "rather than contribute to the “charade” that the two-party election system had become".

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Post by etplayer »

Barrin92 wrote: post #116
ams6110 wrote: post #47

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There's liberal as in "tolerate how other people choose to live" and there's liberal as in "spend a lot of money on big government solutions to social problems" and nobody can claim to be libertarian and be liberal in the latter sense.

not in the American sense, but "libertarianism" has long usage in Europe as well, where it's usually associated with 'left libertarian' thinkers such as Orwell, Kropotkin and so forth. Chomsky would be a contemporary example. Many European anarchists describe themselves as libertarian, in the US the terminology is just not common, so people might be talking past each other here.

Bookchin has spoken about this, but I can't find the lecture at the moment. When I use "libertarian" to describe myself, it's in the Socialist/anarchist sense, rather than what I view as antithetical to libertarian (i.e concerned with the freedom of people) philosophy; I think I would rather call "libertarians" as "propertytarians", as they are so much more concerned with the ownership of property rather than individual freedom, but the name won't catch on.

Edit: Found it, it's a short speech, but it's from a larger one about freedom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnj3dObd6do

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Post by cafard »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #9

I love NPR. My wife makes fun of me because sometimes I sit in the car with the battery / radio on after I park just to hear a story finish. New Hampshire Public radio has a lot of local news and features too, which I can't hear anywhere else. I'm sure other markets are the same. You can get it on Alexa too because most of the shows are also podcasts which is also great. I've also heard a lot from my conservative fri…

If I ever had to move a lot of Make America Great Again merchandise, I would license clips from "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me."

I have two main difficulties with NPR. First, as a baby boomer, I wonder whether my generation will let go. WAMU still plays old Car Talk shows on Saturday morning, a couple of years after one of the brothers died. Garrison Keillor did, finally, let go, but it took him a while.

Second, so much of it seems to me the self-esteem of the college-bred classes. After a while, I wonder whether it isn't as restrictive to the listeners' viewpoint as the private school. (I suppose that this doesn't apply to truckers so much.)

"being able to laugh at jokes at the expense of either of the two major parties". Shouldn't one be able to laugh at jokes that are funny in general?

[edit: added missing comma]

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Post by BeetleB »

taurath wrote: post #54
throwaway2016a wrote: post #9

I love NPR. My wife makes fun of me because sometimes I sit in the car with the battery / radio on after I park just to hear a story finish. New Hampshire Public radio has a lot of local news and features too, which I can't hear anywhere else. I'm sure other markets are the same. You can get it on Alexa too because most of the shows are also podcasts which is also great. I've also heard a lot from my conservative fri…

In general it's about story selection. 80% of the "stories of the day" are related to minority rights, empathy stories and a bunch of others. Rural white people are rarely mentioned except in the context of an environmental disaster. I like the stories myself but I definitely feel like the average conservative doesn't feel like they're included in any of the coverage.

>In general it's about story selection. 80% of the "stories of the day" are related to minority rights, empathy stories and a bunch of others. Rural white people are rarely mentioned except in the context of an environmental disaster.

I think the problem is you're lumping all minorities into one, and treating rural whites as a separate category.

Pick any particular minority group, and you could make the same statement:

"80% of the stories of the day are related to non-X group. Group X is rarely mentioned"

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Post by BeetleB »

kristopolous wrote: post #136
colordrops wrote: post #99

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> I read somewhere that npr isn't liberally biased, but their fan base is mostly liberal, because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias. You don't need to "read somewhere" about whether a news source is biased. You just need to read news across a spectrum of sources. And you will realize that NPR definitely has a liberal bias if you have enough breadth in your sources. I'm a far-left liberal but I'm not afrai…

If liberal is defined as "not alt-right" then sure. But if you expect to find prominent socialists or leftist political activists or their ideas on NPR, you'll be waiting a long time. Chomsky, nader, said, hedges, parenti ... none of them get mentioned or make an appearance. Who teamed up with Richard Wolff's radio show? NPR? Nope, it was iHeartMedia. You can find these people on Al Jazeera, the CBC, RussiaToday, the…

>But if you expect to find prominent socialists or leftist political activists or their ideas on NPR, you'll be waiting a long time. Chomsky, nader, said, hedges, parenti ... none of them get mentioned or make an appearance.

Actually, an NPR station where I lived had all of those appear.

People have to realize that local affiliates have some room in picking the shows they broadcast. I was in a relatively activist town, and these folks were not rare. I know at least one of the names you mentioned because of NPR.

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