Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by eco » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:03 PM UTC

I'm amazed just how few people in the comments here actually read past the clickbait headline. Paint is deprecated. It isn't being removed for the time being. Beyond adding a ribbon menu and some brushes Paint hasn't received meaningful updates since XP so it should really come as no surprise that it would be deprecated.

If Microsoft's history is any indication Paint will be around for another decade, and continue to work if you just download it from some MS Paint nostalgia fansite for decades later.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by rjbwork » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

throwaway7645 wrote: post #219

mwexler wrote: post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

Wait what...Fedora dropped "ls" and "grep"? Why?

Exactly. He was using a hyperbolic situation to point it out.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by drngdds » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:05 PM UTC

They say it might be "removed in future releases." But isn't Windows 10 supposed to be the "last" version of Windows, just perpetually updated? It would be really strange if a system update removed Paint.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by rhencke » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:05 PM UTC

krylon wrote: post #182

brak1 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.getpaint.net/license.html

Huh. I thought it was open source. EDIT: Wikipedia says it used to be open source, but it went to closed source. Still free as in beer, though.

Anyone wondering as to why Paint.NET transitioned to closed source may find this insightful:

https://blog.getpaint.net/2007/12/04/freeware-authors-beware...

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by throwaway7645 » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:06 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #97

Pity that they don't open source it. I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint. The layout and functionality is incredibly intuitive. You drop someone into Paint, and even if they've never seen it before, they can start doing stuff within a minute or so. You drop the same person into GIMP, and five minutes later they're still trying to figure out how the hell to…

What you're saying you use mspaint for i use greenshot and it is much better, while still being tiny and lightweight.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by kin » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:06 PM UTC

Paint is the one program I miss the most from Windows other than the Windows file explorer and window management. Paint clones don't seem to cut it. Preview doesn't cut it for me either. Everything else seems to offer a subset of Paint in a more complicated manner. I don't quite know how to explain it.

Is it possible to DL an executable of Paint and run it in Wine?

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by pdm55 » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:07 PM UTC

I use Paint as my scanner connection. So simple, it just works.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by rosseloh » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:12 PM UTC

Time to go find the executable and save it somewhere.

I use mspaint for one thing, but it does that one thing beautifully. When I'm designing large complicated structures to eventually build in Minecraft, there's nothing quite like zooming all the way in to a blank canvas, turning on the grid, and drawing the floorplan pixel by pixel.

mspaint does this so well because of its simplicity. 20 basic colors, single-pixel drawing (with the ability to do lines and boxes if necessary), and not much else. It's fast, it's simple, and since it's just an image file, it's no problem to transfer the design to another computer (where you can open it right up again in mspaint and have all the same tools).

I've played around with the "new" paint, Paint 3D, and as far as I've seen, there isn't even the ability to put down a 1x1 grid. Basically, they removed a bunch of the "paint" features in order to add the "3D" features.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by dcole2929 » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:13 PM UTC

lps41 wrote: post #212

notadoc wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yes, I still miss my 1/8" jack on my iphone. Every single day. Agree. I bought an iPhone 7 and now I never listen to music or podcasts with it, a very unexpected side effect of not having a headphone jack.

I'm curious about this - why do you no longer listen to music or podcasts? The phone comes with headphones that plug directly into the lightning port, and an 1/8" adapter so you can still use your old headphones. Personally I just keep the adapter permanently attached to my 1/8" headphones. Only downside for me is the inability to charge at the same time, but then the iPhone 7's battery life is pretty great, so that'…

Probably because this person like many has multiple headphones. I have nicer "cans" I use at work. I have the crappy included ones that I use in the gym or when commuting. Noise cancelling buds for travel. And that's not even counting the times I might want to use the aux cord in my car. Having to carry around an adapter is dumb. I have a 6s and will not be upgrading to any phone without a headphone jack

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by platz » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 5:17 PM UTC

troncheadle wrote: post #153

mwexler wrote: post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

> And yes, I still miss my 1/8" jack on my iphone. Every single day. I'm very curious -- anything thoughts on what will be your next phone? Iphone again, or branching out to new 1/8" jack pastures?

your tone suggests one's preferences should be dictated by a corporation's interests; it's perfectly reasonable that the 1/8" jack solves problems for the user that the lightning jack does not solve. Even if they don't even include a 1/8" jack on future products, it could still have been preferable from the individual point of view.