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CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

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Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

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post #16

Where's the news?! Why do people continue to bang heads against the wall with this madness? Unless you're a thief, how is the craptocurrency thing better than my credit card that's insured from unauthorized use and gives me a cash back?! Yeah, you can't speculate with credit cards, and get rich quick, because $1 = $1 like forever, but isn't that what the real investment tools are for?

Just to pick up on this one small point: as I understand it, the cashback you get with a credit card is more or less taken straight from the card processing fee charged to the vendor, which of course, raises prices overall and is therefore not really cashback at all. Without the fee, you would likely have just paid a lower price in the first place. The only party benefitting from the cashback scheme is, of course, th…

A few points:

1. The only party benefitting from the cashback scheme is, of course, the middleman. While prices will go up in the long term, consumers who use cash-back cards do benefit in the short term over those who don't. If you make a transaction in cash or with a debit card which you could have made with a cash-back card, you are leaving 3% on the table. I am extremely skeptical that an individual boycott will be effective. Maybe take your 3% and pool it to lobby for better banking regulations?

2. they entirely eliminate the necessity for such middlemen taking a cut - AFAIK, all cryptocurrency includes some sort of transaction fee.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

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I don't understand how any of these ICO companies are valued so high. If they had to raise this 12mil from VC/PE would they still be valued the same ?

Because it's not real money, most of it is just bitcoins that got converted to ethereum that got converted to coin dejur. Can you cash it out in small quantities sure, but unless something tangible comes of it you have nothing but worthless tokens.

I think that is key. It's similar to the .com boom (and bust) in the early 2000s. You had lots of examples where super-inflated company A bought company B, and paid for it with their super inflated stock. While the "values" reported won and lost where in the billions (trillions?), the fact is that relatively little of it was actually converted back and forth to real dollars.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#224
post #16

Where's the news?! Why do people continue to bang heads against the wall with this madness? Unless you're a thief, how is the craptocurrency thing better than my credit card that's insured from unauthorized use and gives me a cash back?! Yeah, you can't speculate with credit cards, and get rich quick, because $1 = $1 like forever, but isn't that what the real investment tools are for?

You can't issue more dollars, but you can issue more of your token, It would be better for an app to have hacked token addresses than hacked credit card information, these tokens are usually cheap initially and its a free market, investment are always a risk. Why start a restaurant isn't that what all the other restaurants are for?

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#225
post #19

Either the average blockchain startup is unbelievably amateurish re. security or this was an inside job. I suspect the latter but the former does not surprise me one bit.

I have seen the code of a Bitcoin startup. Believe me, security is the last thing on their minds.

Personally, I find it exceptionally naive that these startups think they can handle payment processing, payment storage, and their core product at the same time. If you're a startup, at least two of these will be ignored for favor of another. One of them makes you money/users, the others don't.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#226
post #16

Where's the news?! Why do people continue to bang heads against the wall with this madness? Unless you're a thief, how is the craptocurrency thing better than my credit card that's insured from unauthorized use and gives me a cash back?! Yeah, you can't speculate with credit cards, and get rich quick, because $1 = $1 like forever, but isn't that what the real investment tools are for?

Just to pick up on this one small point: as I understand it, the cashback you get with a credit card is more or less taken straight from the card processing fee charged to the vendor, which of course, raises prices overall and is therefore not really cashback at all. Without the fee, you would likely have just paid a lower price in the first place. The only party benefitting from the cashback scheme is, of course, th…

Slight adjustment... there is also a fair bit of wealth transfer between people who use cash, debit cards, or have credit cards but can't pay them off each month.

So its an extra little 3% tax on the poor, or at least the less financially literate.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oooh, I forgot to mention the transfer time was approximately 3 seconds.

Now do that to a bank account in Canada and to exchange GBP to CAD.

Hmm let's see, bank of Scotland to Royal Bank of Canada would be about 30 Canadian dollars of transfer fees.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#229
post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, there's more than enough liquidity. People clearing more than $70k USD worth of ETH are usually going through OTC channels, not through exchanges like Poloniex and Coinbase. OTC fees are generally higher than exchanges, but offer the advantage of legally guaranteed finality and no chance of slippage affecting your transaction (exactly what happened with GDAX when the price of ETH briefly dropped to $0.10). When…

OTC ?

Over-The-Counter eg not via exchanges, but directly.

Re: CoinDash’s ICO Website Has Been Hacked

#230
post #173

I tend to believe that it was a scam because they refused to disclose the contract beforehand and there were some people claiming that it's a scam few months before [1]. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1905500.0

I say this without an ounce of hyperbole: I assume all ICOs are a scam until convinced otherwise.

The majority aren't outright scams (willful intent to defraud), but most are capital grabs with virtually no chance of being successful businesses.

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