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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by saiya-jin »

skrowl wrote: post #219
slowmotiony wrote: post #197

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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. We use .net core together with SQL Server on Linux boxes in production, no issues whatsoever and we can finally use a programming language which is actually pleasurable to code in.

You know exactly why he's getting downvoted. Saying positive things about Microsoft is very unpopular here on HN.

Because we still suffer arrogance of various decisions of that company in past (windows breaklines, anybody?). If somebody f_cked you over bad say 15 years ago, would you be friendly to him now?

Btw similar attitude can be expressed towards Facebook or Google or whatever for various reasons, but in my personal view those haven't reached the 'evil' state that MS gained in the past yet.

It's hard to win trust back, and MS has a looooong way ahead even if they did some initial baby steps already. Plus some pure evil steps like forcing Windows update to Win10, and complete loss of privacy. It's really hard to like them, and theirs is the blame...

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by wildrhythms »

tjalfi wrote: post #149
m8urn wrote: post #120

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Here is the list of installed applications: http://imgur.com/a/mdrTv Also note that the only third-party software running at the time was wireshark, DNSQuerySniffer, and Glasswire.

Interesting, have you tried configuring Process Monitor to log all network traffic?

Wouldn't it be better to log that traffic from outside of the client? There's nothing that prevents Windows/Process Monitor from hiding this traffic from an application.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by brainfire »

mjevans wrote: post #100
brainfire wrote: post #74

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It's pretty basic Windows GPO knowledge. Lots of them work this way.

It's a pretty broken configuration system that makes it needlessly difficult to do things the correct way.

Yup, it's awful. But it's not some nefarious new trap to steal all your data- this has been needlessly difficult for a decade.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by viraptor »

sathackr wrote: post #107
mjevans wrote: post #100

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It's a pretty broken configuration system that makes it needlessly difficult to do things the correct way.

Agreed. It should read "unconfigured" -- not "disabled" Some of the GPO settings make me feel like I'm reading a contract written by a lawyer out to get me. I don't have any concrete examples, but I swear I've stumbled across settings like this : Setting - Disable Windows Error Reports. Description: Disable the submission of error reports Options: Unconfigured - Use client settings. Disable - Send only minimal inform…

Here's a fun example: to enable tlsv1.2, you had to enable "Turn off encryption" http://www.bauer-power.net/2014/06/how-to-enabled-tls-11-and...

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by viraptor »

jhasse wrote: post #199
jvdl wrote: post #186

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But your argument basically boils down to: Stop using the operating system where everything works: apps, games, hardware, good office package, etc.; rather use an operating system on which debugging to a layman translates to a plane of hell itself, where your hardware may or may not work, and half your game library certainly won't. I would happily switch to Linux permanently the day the flagship office package UI doe…

> the flagship office package UI doesn't resemble Office 97 (the ribbon UI is absolutely fantastic in MS Office) It's being worked on: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/how-to-enable-libreoffice... > I can get all of my games to work Many games don't port to Linux until all users have switched. It's a chicken-egg problem :( > I don't need to recompile a kernel to get something as basic as a graphics driver running.…

The games are getting better. Just over half of my steam library works at the moment. Not sure when it happened but over the last 2 years I noticed more and more things being available. It's no longer just low quality indie stuff.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

jvdl wrote: post #186
ddevault wrote: post #47

The switch to Linux or other free operating systems is long overdue. If your excuse is hardware support, then (1) your hardware is probably supported these days and (2) you should not buy hardware that is incompatible with the operating system you plan to use. If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works great, and MS Office on Wine is an option. If your excuse is games, then…

But your argument basically boils down to: Stop using the operating system where everything works: apps, games, hardware, good office package, etc.; rather use an operating system on which debugging to a layman translates to a plane of hell itself, where your hardware may or may not work, and half your game library certainly won't. I would happily switch to Linux permanently the day the flagship office package UI doe…

Your comment is uninformed garbage. There's no nice way to say it.

>But your argument basically boils down to:

No, it doesn't.

>I would happily switch to Linux permanently the day the flagship office package UI doesn't resemble Office 97 (the ribbon UI is absolutely fantastic in MS Office), I can get all of my games to work, and I don't need to recompile a kernel to get something as basic as a graphics driver running.

So you'll take invasive, impossible to disable tracking, forced "upgrades", and worse, because the document editor doens't have a fucking ribbon? First, that's ridiculous, second, you can run MS Office on Wine, third, you can change the appearance of LibreOffice.

You can't run Breath of the Wild on Windows and that doesn't seem to bother you. Different platforms have different games. Get over it. Unlike most platforms, Linux has projects like Wine to make it so non-portable games have a chance!

You don't have to recompile the kernel to get graphics drivers to work. Have you even tried Linux? Don't talk shit about things you don't have any knowledge of.

I'll just file you into the "change resistant and lying to themselves" category of Windows user.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

skrebbel wrote: post #146
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #79

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Well, my definition of "works" is that you can read it. Authoring new documents should use ODF. And again, MS Office works on Wine, so you can use that in the worst case.

You're really undermining your own argument here, even though you started out very well. If I send an ODF to my lawyer, investor or accountant they're going to panic.

Follow up with "open the file with Word". If they panic over that, you have an awfully stupid lawyer/investor/accountant. It'll even have the word icon on it! I doubt they even have file extensions enabled, they probably wouldn't even notice.

Filing you into the "change resistant and lying to themselves" category of Windows user, too.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by viraptor »

tracker1 wrote: post #212
davidgerard wrote: post #185

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Because it's the best spreadsheet software out there. It really is first-class, and LO Calc has a lot of catching up to do (and they are quite aware of this). My theory is that Excel's userbase includes the guys who actually sign the cheques , so MS has to get it right.

Yeah... LO may have 80% of the features, but if 25% of users use a few of those other 20% of features, you're going to face a lot of resistance from any company with even a dozen users. I've seen some amazing/scary things done in Excel (and Access even).

It's not even crazy features. LO still doesn't support lists, I believe. This makes the more permanent spreadsheets so much harder to maintain.

But on the other hand LO has Base, which is pretty good.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

sjellis wrote: post #141
ddevault wrote: post #47

The switch to Linux or other free operating systems is long overdue. If your excuse is hardware support, then (1) your hardware is probably supported these days and (2) you should not buy hardware that is incompatible with the operating system you plan to use. If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works great, and MS Office on Wine is an option. If your excuse is games, then…

A lot of people who use a computer for work purposes have a number of software applications that they must be able to run reliably in order to do their job. The problem is steadily getting better in some areas, but there are still thousands of specialist applications in service today that only run on Windows. If you are lucky, there may also be Mac versions. The reality is that it's often not feasible to only run FOS…

So run it at work and FOSS at home. Let the situation improve over time. I'm not talking to the everyman, I'm talking to the Hacker News reader.
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