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Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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This usecase is more about running it as a homeserver, where i guess that limitation is not that important. Of course there are a lot of usecases where the Pi is the better choice.

In my case I run my RPi2 as my home server, but off-grid from my non-grid-tie solar PV section, which is a nominal 12V, so a single part (switching 7805 2A, well plus cap) gets my power sorted nicely...

Any info online about your setup?

Here's mine:

thisisthebus.com

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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I use my Raspberry Pi to play around with sensors (such as humidity, temperature, RFID, etc) through the GPIO pins. That's the main selling point, I think. It's an educational product more than anything.

I think people would be happy with two different Raspberry Pi like devices, one with tons of GPIO and one with real SATA and 1Gbe ports. Even just having USB 3.0 would be good enough for what most people want their Pi to do. Fortuneately there are other SBCs out there that can do the job but not with the huge range of out of the box compatible hardware and software that the Pi has. I've been thinking about the OLinuXino line of SBCs for some of my projects. At least the one benefit of having 1Gbe ports is that I can setup a network drive for less I/O intensive projects.

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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You may want to check out the rapidly growing number of RPi clones... cheaper and often more powerful, besides still having GPIO pins. You can find a nice list of options on the Armbian download page: https://www.armbian.com/download/

problem is That a lot have terrible hardware support. and virtually no community following.

It gets even worse when you buy really expensive SBCs from random small companies. You want support? They just ignore any emails because they either can't read your language, closed up shop, or just don't care to respond. Only good thing is that at least the hardware is amd64 and it uses drivers that are in the kernel.

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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The raspberry pi's selling points are: 1. It works nearly out-of-the-box. You only have to prepare an SD card. 2. It is tiny 3. It is quite power efficient 4. It has GPIO pins, which make it usable for experimenting with hardware. 5. It has a great community (you can easily find many projects for it, and there are some great OSes available, which run nice educational software) 6. It is cheap All of this makes it fant…

The Dell is absolutely not outperforming the RPi on power consumption. I run multiple internal- and external- facing servers (eg multiple static and Java-based Web servers, SMTP, DNS, NTP, etc) and the total power usage is generally much less than 50Wh/day. I can throw my Internet connection router and FTTC box on as discretionary load but that's another ~300Wh/day; it is quite staggering how relatively efficient the…

True. I was thinking of performance, but you're right: power efficiency is a measure as well, and the raspberry pi is very power efficient.

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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The raspberry pi's selling points are: 1. It works nearly out-of-the-box. You only have to prepare an SD card. 2. It is tiny 3. It is quite power efficient 4. It has GPIO pins, which make it usable for experimenting with hardware. 5. It has a great community (you can easily find many projects for it, and there are some great OSes available, which run nice educational software) 6. It is cheap All of this makes it fant…

> You can set it up as a server, but this is not its main purpose. I thought the article was very clear about that as it's point. If you were thinking of using an RPi as a server, it's not meant for that, here is a better alternative.

Good point! Maybe the title of the article should reflect this as well.

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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> You can set it up as a server, but this is not its main purpose. I thought the article was very clear about that as it's point. If you were thinking of using an RPi as a server, it's not meant for that, here is a better alternative.

Agree, but also, if price is a consideration the optiplex is clearly 5-10x the cost depending on what of the listed upgrades you get for it

I bought mine for $15

Re: Consider a Dell Optiplex FX160 Instead of a Raspberry Pi

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The Dell is absolutely not outperforming the RPi on power consumption. I run multiple internal- and external- facing servers (eg multiple static and Java-based Web servers, SMTP, DNS, NTP, etc) and the total power usage is generally much less than 50Wh/day. I can throw my Internet connection router and FTTC box on as discretionary load but that's another ~300Wh/day; it is quite staggering how relatively efficient the…

True. I was thinking of performance, but you're right: power efficiency is a measure as well, and the raspberry pi is very power efficient.

And idle power matters: a typical server in this kind of use is going to spend much of its time doing very little at all. (Except in my case fending off attempts to SPAM me or other malicious traffic!) It helps that I can set the RPi's clock to fall back a long way unless the CPU is busy.
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