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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by nik736 »

dom96 wrote: post #216
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

> Thiner/Lighter I can understand lighter, but thinner? Why do you wish for it to be thinner? I consider it to be thin enough.

Try using a 12" rMB, than you know why.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Eun »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Window management in OSX is horrible.

Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by paulrpotts »

strictnein wrote: post #159

> "with a modular design" Why? Just bring back the cheese grater case and call it a day. No pro needs or wants these fancy designs.

If I could upvote you 100 times I would. I just want an updated 2008 Pro. It doesn't even have to be the absolute fastest CPUs out there. It just needs to be reliable and fast and ideally quiet too.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by atemerev »

adtac wrote: post #193
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

Yes -- anything related to data science. Or, like in my case, algorithmic trading.

I used to keep AWS GPU nodes for that, but those are expensive, and it is infinitely more convenient to keep your data close to your workspace, instead of constantly uploading/downloading work batches.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by GVIrish »

adtac wrote: post #193
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

I have some resource intensive VM's I run, but I also need to be mobile enough to go to different client sites. I could potentially do some of that stuff in the cloud but then the monthly cost starts to get high for just development.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by yokohummer7 »

phyrex wrote: post #201
SippinLean wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying. I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware. Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps…

It's terrible to script, you cannot make use of the billion unix command line utilities (and there is no equivalent eco system either), you need to use the mouse too much, and it's awful to program with in any but a small number of sanctioned programming languages.

> It's terrible to script

I'm pretty sure you didn't try PowerShell. It is at least as good as bash, if not better.

> you need to use the mouse too much

I find this more problematic on macOS. I was forced to use a mouse much more on macOS. It doesn't even allow me to press the yes/no dialog only using a keyboard. On Windows nearly every item has a shortcut, sometimes even better than GNOME (but worse than KDE, IMO).

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by unoti »

phyrex wrote: post #201
SippinLean wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying. I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware. Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps…

It's terrible to script, you cannot make use of the billion unix command line utilities (and there is no equivalent eco system either), you need to use the mouse too much, and it's awful to program with in any but a small number of sanctioned programming languages.

What language are you wanting to program in that is awful on Windows? And regarding your other points, Windows scripting story has come a long way in the last few years.

Your concerns sound like they come from many years ago and that maybe you haven't taken a look lately.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by d_theorist »

jlgaddis wrote: post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

Too late maybe (at least for your personal upgrade cycle), but I don't see how a complete re-think using a modular design, pro monitors, and up-to-date components can be too little. What more were you hoping for?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by VelNZ »

Wow, what a torrent of negativity on this thread, I didn't see a single positive comment reading through the top level.

This is excellent news, I'm chugging along on a 2010 Mac Pro and was very disappointed when the Apple Displays were cancelled last year. They are a staple of the lineup and always look gorgeous compared to what's on the market. I will definitely be buying the new Mac Pro and 2 displays to go with it. There is absolutely no way I will ever use Windows and having to downscale to an iMac or, worse, a MacBook Pro, when my Mac Pro is finally too old was filling me with dread. By the sounds of things, they are working on making it modular and expandable, also very good news as I like to keep my workhorse computer for a long time.

Overall very excited to see what Apple announce next year!

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