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You'll definitely earn way less, but you'll be entitled to a lot of vacations (5~7 weeks of paid vacations). The Americans I know that went to work to France don't want to go back
So do the Americans like it in France and want to stay there? The wording of your comment makes it unclear.
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Let me know if you find reliable numbers. The French culture on this is very different, people simply don't talk about money and salary. I found a starting salary survey in a business magazine that indicated graduates of the top 5 engineering schools are getting about 40-55K/year
I just graduated from Ecole Centrale Paris, usually second on engineering school rankings after Ecole Polytechnique. I found a job in web development in a small startup in November and am making ~45k a year.
I would love to go to France. I'm in US right now, 1 semester left for degree and have interned at a respectable company. I wonder if they're looking for experienced engineers over fresh ones. I've read so much that work life and culture is so much better in France, so heres hoping...
You know, a lot of CS people in the US seem to really love the US and say stuff like "it sucks not to be in the US." They usually mention how they can afford everything since they make so much money and how they prefer to work 600 hours a week instead of having forced days off and that health care through Employer is so much better than through government. Admittedly, this was on Reddit, which is just a huge echo cha…
A lot of people I know over time build mental walls that resemble what the US culture respects and pushes on everyone. Work is #1 and money is everything. I see people that never use their vacation days and feel bad when they do!
I believe if there was more focus on philosophy teachings in the US, things would be different and maybe more healthy individuals would exist. I think it's easier in the US to fall into a unhealthy pattern of life and not realize it. Some people are dumb founded by the notion or just don't think about it as they don't see alternative options available. I've had luck of working with many older engineers that advise if they had done things differently in life...
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I am using https://salaryaftertax.com/fr to compute the net salary, but I am not sure whether it offers the complete picture. Could anyone familiar with the taxation in France offer more details?
This seems to be accurately calculating the income taxes, but that's not taking into account the corporate taxes. If a French employer tells you they'll pay you 100k€ annually (just for the sake of the example), you can expect to receive 75k€. (25%, mostly for your retirement plan, social security and unemployment insurance. Mandatory) Then, if you input those 75k in this tool, it will tell you what you can expect to…
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46k is really low in France for an experienced dev and that's outside of Paris. Junior dev engineer earn at least 45k when they begin in Paris, and it gets to 60k in about 5-10 years. Also corporate taxes are about 23% but you're right on personal income.
Well, my 36k salary, while working around Paris, disagree with your assertion.
The UK has a similar visa for senior engineers: http://www.techcityuk.com/tech-nation-visa/ "This specific visa can be used for talent coming from anywhere in the world. As an example, we are aware of a recent senior hire from the US that got his visa returned to him in his passport exactly 28 days from submission. This specific visa puts an individual on track to Indefinite Leave to Remain and Citizenship with no ne…
The visa has a low annual quota of just 200.
What are salaries like for mid-senior level software engineers working in tech companies in Paris? What are the tax rates i.e pay after taxes?
Others have replied on the salary ranges, but don't forget to factor in free healthcare, excellent public schools, ...
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That sounds like double or triple the amount of tax Americans in a similar role have to pay at home
That works out to 37.5% tax. I paid considerably more than that working in California when you include health insurance.
What's the general deal with startup visas? Your startup fails, you have to quit the country? Seems like it raises the stakes for very little reason unless the country is otherwise startup-favourable.