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Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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Did the pixels offend you? Block everyone who disagrees with you. Now you know why no one you knew voted for Trump. If the left is obsessed with turning their entire belief system into a remake of the 1930s radio model (One story teller allowed, millions of listeners), then we will get 1930s results. Meanwhile, I'll be using the internet the way Jesus 2.0 intended and engaging in robust anonymous communication networ…

"Did the pixels offend you? Block everyone who disagrees with you." It's called freedom of association. No one is owed a hearing by there mere presence online or even offline from private organizations and private citizens. "If the left is obsessed with turning their entire belief system into a remake of the 1930s radio model (One story teller allowed, millions of listeners), then we will get 1930s results." That's e…

Freedom of association means assembling with like-minded interests, not purging unlike-minded interests. What you are trying to defend with that deep-end SJW Kool-aid belly flop is the unchristened but widely-held "freedom of ignorance" where you have the freedom to be stupid by denying information to yourself.

Which of course, not only do you have but also appear ready to fight to the doxx to defend.

The web is not a pull model. Learn the other HTTP verbs... or cherry-pick away to continue the "Fischer Price's My First Venture Outside of Tumblr" shtick everyone sees you pulling, that's fine, too.

The web does allow individuals and private organizations to determine their distribution methodology. And not all of them are winners.

The 1930s model has been dead once the tyrants of socialism bludgeoned it to death. But, hey... you seem hell-bent on justifying why your brand of censorship is awesome, how about a wager:

You post your actual identifying information like social media has trained you and I won't post mine. Guess who doesn't have to adhere to the behaviour expectations of the people in my head and synthetic social pressures and status signalling, and thus, has true freedom of expression? Which one of us is going to be hunted down by axe-grinding autists who are obsessed with ideological purity and which one of us is going bypass that entire system until you hunt each other to death? Which of these strategies will survive beyond the impending eulogy of old media?

Because I gotta tell ya... that bicoastal elitist bubble and the partnership with the thought factories over at mainstream media have gone full diminishing returns after September.

I hear the Global Engagement Centre is hiring. You'd be perfect for them. Maybe we can fight Nazis with nothing but a $60,000 degree in English and composition! Yeah! We can repeat 1945 over and over and over again just so you can feel good!

Because that's what matters.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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Hacker News after all these years has managed to maintain a pretty high standard when it comes to comment quality (my comments excluded, of course, they are of much lower quality). A large part of that is it was started with a pretty small group that set the tone and quality, and it has always been very aggressive towards new commenters in the form of limiting down-votes, and chastising lower quality comments. That b…

>Hacker News after all these years has managed to maintain a pretty high standard when it comes to comment quality It's easy to maintain quality when the majority of your visitors have the same political and social beliefs. Basic income, renewable energy, income inequality... It gets really old for people living outside of the Silicon Valley bubble.

That is a bizarrely anti-factual description of HN, which as a moderator I can tell you is deeply ideologically divided. It surprises me that this isn't obvious.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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Sorry, my mistake. On the other hand.. You answered for them? Only astrodust can know what problem astrodust has with Breitbart...

You must be living under a rock. They're a tabloid on par with Weekly World News . http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/14/media/breitbart-incendiary-h...

A page full of snippets with little context.

Just to pick one: 'A July article suggested that research revealed "women might just suck at job interviews."'

Is this claim false?

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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> One story, all credibility, huh? Yes. The "story" made specific criminal accusations. > You must live in a world where nobody is credible. Publications are held to a different standard. > New York Times... but that doesn't necessarily negate all the work It just means you can no longer trust the publication. > putting it on the same level as Breitbart Here we go. Tell me what's wrong with Breitbart?

> Tell me what's wrong with Breitbart? You have got to be fucking kidding. If you don't know what's wrong with Breitbart you have absolutely no place to criticize anyone.

People said the same thing about Hilary.

I guess we both have blind-spots, so let's share the evidence. There's been a lot of fake news around.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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post #60

Hacker News after all these years has managed to maintain a pretty high standard when it comes to comment quality (my comments excluded, of course, they are of much lower quality). A large part of that is it was started with a pretty small group that set the tone and quality, and it has always been very aggressive towards new commenters in the form of limiting down-votes, and chastising lower quality comments. That b…

I honestly believe that the HN community is good largely because the website is so terrible. The buggy and unappealing UX turns off most low effort users.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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post #120

I think there actually might be a market here for Reddit... Create a subreddit for a news site, and each new article on the news site automatically gets a new post on the subreddit. Embed the relevant post on the news site. Since "karma" is transitive across Reddit and across news sites, users are slightly less likely to troll. You could also do this with some sort of reputation system across websites (Disqus could a…

I used to believe this was true and thought that Facebook comments was the end-game to these problems. Then I realized that there is a giant shift that occurs with people and the internet, because the crazy cruft that was being posted was still being posted, but now tied to a Facebook Identity.

I think this will likely be solved when human beings actually SEE others and see the reactions from others faces - thousands of years of evolution have honed this part of our social selves and that is what will be necessary to keep our less troll selves at bay.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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No I didn't, that was `astrodust`, not me. I was just providing an example of something that was wrong with them.

Sorry, my mistake. On the other hand.. You answered for them? Only astrodust can know what problem astrodust has with Breitbart...

You didn't ask what problem astrodust had with them. You asked what's wrong with them. I told you one thing.

If you want a private conversation, then HN comments are the wrong venue.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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You think that because I'd like to see a basic income, care about renewable energy and income equality, that I must be living in the Silicon Valley bubble? Is that genuinely what you think?

You think that because I'd like to see a basic income, care about renewable energy and income equality, that I must be living in the Silicon Valley bubble? Nope, you're not "in a bubble" for holding those positions. I see parent poster as listing some things that happen to be popular in the bubble, even if they're also generic american left. When discussing a "bubble", it doesn't matter what the positions happen to b…

Heh, stop being so provincial. Not everyone on the planet fits into your simple-minded categories.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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It has been a long time since I actually dove into a comments section on any news site and found anything other than inflammatory arguments. It seems like people target out these news sites intentionally to start these arguments with no intent of listening to the other side. I would much rather come somewhere like here, and actually seem to have mostly civil discussions even when people disagree. Does anyone find the…

De Correspondent, a Dutch publication, their comments section is only accessible to paying members. They treat their subscribers as a community and usually an article ends with a question to the reader to discuss. Their publisher has a typical Medium post about their strategy. As a subscriber I would say it works, unless the topic is already really controversial. https://medium.com/@ejpfauth/lets-give-reader-comments…

I think it's great giving their subscribers a voice, however I don't agree that it's good to only be open to paying members. It's better to have something like subscriber accounts with unlimited comments and regular user accounts with limited number of comments.

Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com

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"Did the pixels offend you? Block everyone who disagrees with you." It's called freedom of association. No one is owed a hearing by there mere presence online or even offline from private organizations and private citizens. "If the left is obsessed with turning their entire belief system into a remake of the 1930s radio model (One story teller allowed, millions of listeners), then we will get 1930s results." That's e…

Freedom of association means assembling with like-minded interests, not purging unlike-minded interests. What you are trying to defend with that deep-end SJW Kool-aid belly flop is the unchristened but widely-held "freedom of ignorance" where you have the freedom to be stupid by denying information to yourself. Which of course, not only do you have but also appear ready to fight to the doxx to defend. The web is not…

We've banned this account for serial trolling.
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