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Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by awinder »

nsxwolf wrote: post #159

So USB-C is what it takes to get you to switch to Linux? What are you going to do when all other laptop manufacturers follow suit - switch back? Mac users who make this threat sound just like people who threaten to move to Canada every election cycle.

Most of the laptop manufacturers are mixing the legacy ports with the new usb-c ports. That'll probably continue for a while, and not sure if you'll see things like sd card readers disappear anytime soon. Apple's DNA is to make upsetting changes quickly (often to their benefit), but that's not how a lot of users like things to go down, so this feels like a legitimate gripe.

As for when the escape key / function row is going to disappear from windows computers, I'd say that one is a ways off / never.

As for when it's going to be impossible to get a nice nvidea graphics card, but given the track record, I'd say this trends towards "never" as well.

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Post by epmaybe »

fnl wrote: post #211

I try Ubuntu about once a year, in the hopes of getting rid of OSX. But each time, the reason for going back to Apple ID is interoperability : Try dragging stuff (images, fotos, links, files, formatted text ...) from one program to another, including the "dreaded" Finder; Works nearly always in OSX. While Ubuntu has come a long way with these things, I think it's still an even longer way away from what OSX can do. So…

My biggest gripe with OS X right now is that Safari doesn't play nice with some website when it comes to dragging pictures and pasting them in from the clipboard.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by matzipan »

serf wrote: post #150
r3bl wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. It says "pay what you want" and you can literally pay what you want (including nothing).

Well, I think it is. If I pay nothing, I don't pay. I don't say "I paid zero." or "I paid nothing" unless someone asks the specific question "How much did you pay for that?" It's obviously a way to nudge people into paying something . edit: I made an aside about the use of the word 'donation' by cannabis collectives in the U.S. to denote 'payment' (as a way to operate as non-profits and avoid federal problems) as a r…

So they should disable writing "0" in the input box and require that you enter "nothing"?

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Post by wlesieutre »

FrankBlack wrote: post #47

Perhaps I am just dense, but the article references, specifically, the "Pro" market. For most pros that I know (and I am among them), our OS choice is often based on our tools, not the other way around. If I need Photoshop, Lightroom, Logic Pro, Visual Studio, etc., switching will be quite a chore. For the average user, this is probably a much more appealing argument.

Depends on what work you're doing. My (slowly improving) programmer art workflow is based on Blender, Substance Designer, and Substance Painter, all of which are available on Linux as of a few months ago.

Since the Linux release of SD I've been dual booting elementary on my desktop and have had a pretty solid experience. For me it's games that make me keep a Windows installation around.

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Post by teddyh »

embik wrote: post #203
kybernetyk wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I don't begrudge him either. I run a small software company myself. We're selling our software on the internet. But our website focuses on getting people to download the free trial first. The "asking for money" is then done once the trial period ends. It's already hard to get people to download your stuff for free. With obviously visible download buttons. If we did what Elementary is doing we would be closing our…

As far as I know the GPL does not allow trial periods and asking for money later on, but feel free to correct me. That's why elementary cannot do such a thing.

If Elementary wants to alter some program to add a time bomb, the GPL cannot stop them. The GPL only ensures that the user can take the time bomb out (either by themselves or by following instructions on the internet, or by hiring somebody to do it).

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Post by marrs »

makomk wrote: post #197
pmlnr wrote: post #109

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GTK? QT? And, since we're talking elementary, Vala?

GTK has been fairly hostile to non-Gnome usage since the GTK 3 era; they keep on breaking backwards compatibility for applications that use it, don't care about whether apps can be used on non-Gnome desktop environments, etc. I don't think it's all that polished either.

I instantly believe you, based on my experience of the fiasco that is Gnome 3, but can you share some examples of this?

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by acomar »

embik wrote: post #203
kybernetyk wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I don't begrudge him either. I run a small software company myself. We're selling our software on the internet. But our website focuses on getting people to download the free trial first. The "asking for money" is then done once the trial period ends. It's already hard to get people to download your stuff for free. With obviously visible download buttons. If we did what Elementary is doing we would be closing our…

As far as I know the GPL does not allow trial periods and asking for money later on, but feel free to correct me. That's why elementary cannot do such a thing.

GPL just requires source to be available to anyone who receives the binary. It has to be available on request. You can ask them to pay for the cost of postage to ship it to them.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by [deleted] »

embik wrote: post #203
kybernetyk wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I don't begrudge him either. I run a small software company myself. We're selling our software on the internet. But our website focuses on getting people to download the free trial first. The "asking for money" is then done once the trial period ends. It's already hard to get people to download your stuff for free. With obviously visible download buttons. If we did what Elementary is doing we would be closing our…

As far as I know the GPL does not allow trial periods and asking for money later on, but feel free to correct me. That's why elementary cannot do such a thing.

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by paulryanrogers »

embik wrote: post #203
kybernetyk wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I don't begrudge him either. I run a small software company myself. We're selling our software on the internet. But our website focuses on getting people to download the free trial first. The "asking for money" is then done once the trial period ends. It's already hard to get people to download your stuff for free. With obviously visible download buttons. If we did what Elementary is doing we would be closing our…

As far as I know the GPL does not allow trial periods and asking for money later on, but feel free to correct me. That's why elementary cannot do such a thing.

GPL doesn't prohibit payment. It just implicitly undercuts payment because the first to pay can redistribute for less or nothing.

Yet some projects still squeak out some money: Synergy, DOSBox Turbo, etc.

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