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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by exceptione »

simondedalus wrote: post #217
exceptione wrote: post #208

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I looked recently into elementaryOS in my quest for a good looking and functional linux distro, as it has been touted for being a good looking distro. It has too many UI problems to my liking. Look at this picture from the OP: http://taoofmac.com/media/AvRn9_F_JHGrGsCSlJwydak6BTc=/blog/... [edit: the one with caption "Zooming in on a NASA image I had handy"]. - There is a lack of contrast for the text in the left bar…

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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by mcbits »

simondedalus wrote: post #217
exceptione wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked recently into elementaryOS in my quest for a good looking and functional linux distro, as it has been touted for being a good looking distro. It has too many UI problems to my liking. Look at this picture from the OP: http://taoofmac.com/media/AvRn9_F_JHGrGsCSlJwydak6BTc=/blog/... [edit: the one with caption "Zooming in on a NASA image I had handy"]. - There is a lack of contrast for the text in the left bar…

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Highlight the address bar and press enter. It will request again without the referral from HN.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by achikin »

butterm wrote: post #144

I am using elementary OS for the past one and a half years, and honestly speaking, I am in love with it. I am a long time Linux user, and whenever I get a chance, I tell people about all the great things about Linux and why it's better than Windows and the MacOS. But there was always one aspect of Linux that I always felt a bit uneasy about, and this was design/UI/UX/accessibility of the many popular distributions. I…

Glad that you have the list of best options for every task, but as you say - it took you several years to figure it out. That would be great to have some sane defaults for most of common everyday tasks without the need of long research and learning, so one can concentrate on what he really cares about(like IDE or image editor) rather than bein stuck choosing a media player that err..plays the media.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Mathnerd314 »

pritambaral wrote: post #184
Mathnerd314 wrote: post #116

> the terminal emits a desktop notification whenever it detects that a long-running process has finished. Does anyone know how this is implemented? Edit: pretty simple: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-termin... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-termin...

That can be achieved in any terminal emulator that visually shows the occurrence of an ASCII bell. For instance, all I had to do was include `\a` in my `$PS1` and now whenever a command finishes running and bash is ready for a new command, my terminal emulator gets a bell. Konsole (and any Konsole based terminal emulators, like Yakuake) shows a notification if a bell happens in a non-foreground session. Konsole also…

Wouldn't that beep every time you run a command? And/or interfere with any programs that use the beep for their own purposes?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by bobajeff »

pavanky wrote: post #199
matt4077 wrote: post #192

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Having an interest in design, I often feel a vibe of aggression towards the whole endeavor coming from some elements of OSS scene that I can see being equally infuriating or hurtful as "neckbeards". Among them are: - dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon - design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove s…

Firstly, I see a lot of people complaining about the design, but the matter of fact is a lot more programmers are willing to work for free and make their contributions open source than designers are. This was more true a decade ago than it is now, so there is a lot of "if it works, do not break it" attitude. Secondly, "good design" is subjective as opposed to a program that achieves its goals. No matter what you do,…

My only problem with the design is the lack of maximize minimize and close buttons in the windows. I could care less if it looks like Mac or Windows or whatever I just need to have those three buttons otherwise I'll just use my phone if I want some "revolutionary different way of interacting with things" (tm).

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by sprafa »

matt4077 wrote: post #192
endgame wrote: post #139

> It has polish and care that the stereotypical raging neckbeards who espouse the mantra of Linux on the desktop are unable to appreciate (or, apparently, build), and it has to exist, even if merely as a counterpoint to all the ugliness. Please be nice :(. Some of those so-called "neckbeards" probably helped build the stack upon which things like elementaryOS rest.

Having an interest in design, I often feel a vibe of aggression towards the whole endeavor coming from some elements of OSS scene that I can see being equally infuriating or hurtful as "neckbeards". Among them are: - dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon - design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove s…

It's a refinement of the old MacOS though. I agree it's very similar, but even as a designer I feel like you don't have the reinvent the wheel, and that MacOS did find a lot of saner solutions to most problems on desktop. There are innovations in it and stuff cribbed from Windows as well.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by sprafa »

bobajeff wrote: post #225
pavanky wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firstly, I see a lot of people complaining about the design, but the matter of fact is a lot more programmers are willing to work for free and make their contributions open source than designers are. This was more true a decade ago than it is now, so there is a lot of "if it works, do not break it" attitude. Secondly, "good design" is subjective as opposed to a program that achieves its goals. No matter what you do,…

My only problem with the design is the lack of maximize minimize and close buttons in the windows. I could care less if it looks like Mac or Windows or whatever I just need to have those three buttons otherwise I'll just use my phone if I want some "revolutionary different way of interacting with things" (tm).

It's not revolutionary and yes the design of elementary is highly opinionated. I personally got used to it quickly and understand why they removed it

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by jswny »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #172
tigershark wrote: post #167

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Maybe because after decades I'm frankly pissed of all the infinite glitches in windows and Linux and I want something that just works? Every hour spent in fighting those problems is real money that I lose, but above all I want to write code, not to fight with a machine. I'm not 16 anymore (when I had all the time of this world and when I even enjoyed the fight), now I just want to use my time to write code instead of…

I agree but how does a mac deliver that experience? How hard is it to fuck up installing the required dev toolchain and then jumping into Vim or your IDE of choice to get work done? How does a mac help with any of that? I've never run into any issues with my dell machine and it started with ubuntu 12.04 when I first got it. Each upgrade has gone without any hitches or glitches.

Simply getting Linux onto a lot of my machines with working graphics, audio, and other drivers is a pain a lot of times.

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Post by angry-hacker »

zanny wrote: post #39
adamors wrote: post #10

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If you rely on Skype in any way, avoid Linux. The Linux version was killed years ago and basic stuff like screen sharing isn't working as expected. Last time I tried (2+ years ago, it might be different now) Go To Meeting also wasn't working on Linux. I've used Linux on the desktop between 2009-2014 and basically anything multimedia related was a chore.

You can use the web version of skype now. I'd never install the dumpster desktop version but if anyone refuses to use alternatives I can just go to web.skype.com and it... works.

Unfortunately you can't make calls from web. I mean to phone numbers. Screen sharing is not working either, obvious.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by mrmondo »

Just gave it a shot, great UX experience! But: for some reason it formats /boot to ext2 which is a bad idea as it has no journaling and you're likely to end up with a corrupt boot partition that won't boot. It's also a shame to see it's based on ubuntu and not Debian or Fedora which both test their packages a lot better than the ubuntu team has proven over the years.
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