Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating • Hacker News Board

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#221

Post by WalterSear » Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 12:43 AM UTC

EugeneOZ wrote: post #151

WalterSear wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfinished? How about never finished. >Angular 2 is going to have breaking changes only every 6 months from now on. So the next one would be around February with Angular 3. Yes exactly, they’re also finally switching to semantic versioning which is a huge win in my opinion. IMHO, breaking changes every six months is the recipe for an shitshow of an ecosystem. http://juristr.com/blog/2016/09/ng2-released/

Ok, now try to find at least one framework without breaking changes after initial release. Code should evolve, planned changes is a graceful evolution.

Breaking changes are to be expected. Breaking changes every six months are how you ruin an ecosystem.

React releases every 6 months or so, and puts deprecation warning on anything that is breaking in the next update, so you have a full year between any breaking features, and six months for everyone to update before they land.

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#222

Post by DeAndre222 » Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 12:47 AM UTC

Contact codebake247@cyberservices.com for any type of hacking /database services we offer diffrent services on different range of hacking issues and also helps to retrieve accounts that have been taken by hackers or message at +1 480 439 6115

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#223

Post by oferzelig » Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 5:17 AM UTC

I don't get how come this item has received (at the time of this writing) 204 upvotes, whereas an earlier item on the very same blog post only received 6:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12529981

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#224

Post by ajbetteridge » Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 3:51 PM UTC

flukus wrote: post #195

ecnahc515 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because it means all my users can install the same application and I only have to write it once for all platforms. Not every platform/OS even has a (good) package manager. So I think this alone is what makes the web great.

Which platforms don't have good package management? Linux has, if anything, too many. Windows has chocolatey. Apple has homebrew. Writing portable applications can be done in a variety of ways and packaged for each platform.

Windows might have chocolatey, one among a small number package managers for Windows (including the bleh Windows 10 Store), but not being baked into the OS distribution means the average user isn't going to install it. Users want what's already in the Start menu/page, not something they have to go to a site, copy some (as far as they know) random text, paste it into a power shell, and then hope it works. You effectively need a package manager to install the package manager. That might be ok for your power users, but the average person what wants to install GIMP because he's been told by his mate down the pub that it's "like a free Photoshop", would rather go to the GIMP site and download it, he won't even know about chocolatey because he's so used to using Windows without a package manager that he'll just Google "GIMP" and hope the fist link is the right one. Windows missed the boat on package managers and the Windows 10 Store definitely does not make it any easier.

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#225

Post by Dorisb85 » Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 4:15 AM UTC

hi, am Doris, i had my friend help me hack my ex's email, facebook, whatsapp,and his phone cause i suspected he was cheating. all he asked for was a his phone number. he's email is (cyberlord7714@gmail.com)..IF u need help tell him Doris, referred you to him and he'll help. Am sure his going to help you do it, good luck

Re: Why Learning Angular 2 Was Excruciating

#226

Post by patj » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 12:37 PM UTC

janfoeh wrote: post #76

I've said it before here and I'll say it again: the JS ecosystem is moving in the wrong direction. Sometimes I feel that with Javascript, we developers have taken something that wasn't ours, and we're in the process of destroying the best thing there ever was about it. One of its best qualities used to be that you could have absolutely no idea what you're doing, read a few bad tutorials somewhere on the web, mash you…

You can still do all of those things you're talking about. In most cases you don't even need jQuery anymore and can just use browser APIs.

Why do you argue about something that clearly doesn't interest you? From a so-called professional: It's perfectly fine to continue doing websites the way you do if that works for you and your client. End of story.

Everything else that confuses you is just the world of software getting bigger, Javascript being used in different places, people trying out things and promoting them, good stuff, bad stuff, you know – like the real world. Imagine knowing every aspect (political, economical, social) of a larger city and you would go crazy as well. Breathe and relax.