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This is nothing but a pirate business model, it's deplorable. Blocking ads alone is pretty bad but wedging yourself into the middle and then collecting a marketplace fee is nothing short of a pirate move.
People talk about the ad blocking arms race, but they forget that advertising itself is an arms race. Often it doesn't even benefit the advertisers! For example, everyone would buy food even if it wasn't advertised, so the food industry as a whole might well be losing money on ads. (If you're feeling nitpicky, substitute "cheap food industry" for "food industry".) It's a kind of prisoner's dilemma situation where eac…
Blanket bans on advertising favour market incumbents. It's true that some companies will prosper through word of mouth but in the early adopter stage you need to reach those early adopters. If you're small and your early adopters are distributed, you'll die before you catch on through people talking about you. I'd wager the net effect would be to entrench big brands.
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That fits my definition of acceptable. I, we, aren't blind to people's need to make money for the time and effort. But we don't want 50% clickbait video poppin up randomly. Same for battery life, etc etc. No JS. With some fixed not too screamy image smartly positionned, I'd never block ads. I don't get the logic behind these ads. They really think that shouting red stuff at my face will make me spend time and money ?…
> They really think that shouting red stuff at my face will make me spend time and money ? Actually, yes, they do. And it scares me that they may be right. Ads are toxic. Why don't we ban them? I've yet to hear a sensible argument to keep ads.
(Nor should it, in my opinion.)
Anyway, I can't give you a sensible argument to keep "brand" ads which strike me as ridiculous also. But if I'm an inventor and I invent a great new X, how the hell am I supposed to tell the world about it without advertising it in some form or another? "Hey, I have a machine that can make your life easier. But I can't tell you what it is or how to buy it, because ads are illegal. This makes sense."
I hate ads, absolutely hate them. I hate them on TV. I hate them on billboards. I hate them on the net. If I want something, I decide I want it. I research it, and I make my choices based on multiple sources. Dancing clowns and phony sales do nothing but waste my time and annoy me. Having said that, we need some way forward, even if it's nothing but a small step. I propose that all advertisers voluntarily place ads (…
If you don't want tracking, don't visit the website. Ads don't force you look at things. You're looking at it.
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Sure, it would be ideal to live in a world without advertising. But if advertising is the cost we pay to monetize content like news, well, I'd rather accept that than other content models like paywalls.
There is way too much content. If your company can't turn a profit without selling ads and selling user data. Maybe it shouldn't exist.
Paying per site will ensure I hear fewer points of view on the news and other topics since it doesn't scale well currently.
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You're assuming that everyone shares your world view. I'm a happy Adblock Plus user and I like this move. Advertising, in general, does not bother me. I occasionally even find it valuable. Ads on sites like Google and Facebook are perfectly fine by me—I just don't want big, animated ads or (more frequently) broken ones which prevent me from reading content. In fact, I already go out of my way to disable ABP on sites…
> Ads on sites like Google and Facebook are perfectly fine by me—I just don't want big, animated ads or (more frequently) broken ones which prevent me from reading content. Honest question - don't the sidebar ads (on the right) on Facebook look ugly and intrusive to you (more so since they also change often)? Apart from Facebook tracking, I block ads on Facebook because of these too.
Not at all. I honestly don't even understand how you could think they are.
They're literally just a (static) image and a few lines of text.
Heck, I often even find Facebook ads to be inherently valuable. Most of them are for services I use and like.
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They meant it in terms of malware/viruses/tracking and probably could have phrased it better as "hostile payloads" or something similar. Books generally don't contain malware and those that do don't contain malware that will run on your computer when you open the book. This is made apparent by: >loss of data, loss of time, loss of money and loss of privacy.
> loss of data, loss of time, loss of money and loss of privacy. Not really. There are certainly plenty of books which will lose you money and time. More importantly, if the sole concern is "hostile payloads" then the acceptable ads program should be exactly what you support. I'm fine with ads on sites like Facebook where I know it's not going to take over my computer or launch a massive popup, and I support ABP in p…
But what about data or privacy?
>I'm fine with ads on sites like Facebook where I know it's not going to take over my computer or launch a massive popup
The concern there would be privacy/tracking via advertisements. I readily admit that is a silly argument if one is already using Facebook. I do not have a Facebook account. I do not know when, if ever, Facebook will extend their advertisements to be used on partnered sites instead of internal-only. I can block them in advance even if I may never see them at all.
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Have you ever watched American TV? This reads like someone who turned on Bravo at 2PM one time and decided all TV must be like that.
I think what they're commenting on is the sort of editing time-line encountered on such shows in the genre similar to "greatest ice-road vintage trucker sale digger catch". These tend to be, in a 30 minute slot: Which gives 8 minutes of original footage stretched over 30 minutes, with 15 minutes of ads and 7 minutes of rehashing. This format, although now popular in other countries, is a "modern-classic" of US televi…
Obligatory Mitchell and Webb Gift Shop Sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFtl2XXnUc