Why was it wrapped in the first place?
Why can't Google do development in the open?
Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
221–230 of 250 posts
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#222Personally, I don't care for any [0] of the new features. This is the greatest feature, because it means Android is mature now. [0] Sure, better performance is always nice, but I don't care for Vulkan, VR Mode, or Multi-Window.
There is one awesome new feature that is not mentioned on most "best new features" list: built-in night mode (blue light filter). Works much better than similar apps from the store - those work by placing a translucent overlay window on top of everything else, which gives everything (including black!) a reddish hue. The new built-in filter, on the other hand, just removes blue, and blacks remain black.
I can't find it, I searched settings for 'blue, 'bed' & 'night'.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Things are tough all over. Signed, person that bought a first generation iPad.
Yeah. First world problem, or whatever. But, like my 2013 Moto X, it's irritating to get less than 2 years out of a multiple hundred dollar product that otherwise is fine. And I would have bought the successor to the Nexus 7, except there was none, really -- nothing comparable and problem free (in addition to the price bump and larger size, the 9 had issues, initially, IIRC). And... after the Moto X, and observing ho…
> First world problem, or whatever. But, like my 2013 Moto X, it's irritating to get less than 2 years out of a multiple hundred dollar product that otherwise is fine.
I have a Nexus S, a Nexus 4, and a Nexus 5. The 5 is dead; I don't think it's recoverable. The 4 is dying; it runs fine but the battery is expanding. The S, to this day, has no hardware problems. But despite the availability of up-to-date cyanogenmod builds for it, it can't run modern android at acceptable speeds.
If specs are stabilizing (?), I'd really like to see a return to the replaceable-battery/robust hardware school of phones. :/
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nexus 5 launch price: US$349 iPhone 5 launch price: US$649 A phone nearly twice the price should be supported quite a lot longer.
But it's not quite a bit longer, but much longer. The last major update for the Nexus 5 was Marshmallow. Mashmallow was released in October 2015, the Nexus 5 was released in October 2013. So, one got major updates for 24 months iff you bought it on release day and you were lucky to be in a region where it was available in in October 2013. The iPhone 5s was released in approximately the same timeframe (September 2013)…
> I am not sure why we find this acceptable anyway. When we buy a $300-400 Windows x86 laptop, we also expect it to be upgradable for a decade or so (which is usually possible).
We didn't used to. Not so long ago, keeping the same computer for 10 years would have been a ludicrous idea.
Heck, I got a Dell laptop for considerably more than $400 in 2003, less than 13 years ago. Its screen died 3 years later. I still have it around, but it's not much good without a display.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#225Why was it wrapped in the first place? Why can't Google do development in the open?
It's called the Osborne effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd agree - however after nearly 3 years the speakers on my N5 are nigh on unusable (phonecalls are only really possible with a headset or loudspeaker), the power cable refuses to stay put and tries to make a break for it every 5 minutes, and there's still an annoying bug where the screen is flaky/unresponsive when it is finally plugged in. Not sad about missing out on Nougat at the moment, but the sheer number of N5…
Do you have the fun issues where the power button sticks, resulting in an endless boot loop? I've resorted to percussive maintenance, which oddly fixes the problem for months at a time.
I had that issue. When I tried whacking the phone to unstick the power button, it instead entered a state where it can't mount its internal storage and just stays in the (same) booting animation indefinitely because it can't boot. I don't view this as an improvement.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. The Nexus 5 was not expensive relative to the iOS devices he is consider getting. 3 years worth of updates was just about worth the device's price. On another note I hated the Nexus 5 and that LCD screen always felt washed out!
N5 is very fast for that price, but camera sucks and plastic frame beaks easily. Not to mention how fragile are side buttons... And screen is quite hard to repair! But hey, for 350 bucks, it's a good deal.
Not sure if I agree with the screen being hard to repair/replace.
I decided to do it a few months back and all it really took was taking all of the parts out, gluing the screen to the frame and putting the parts back in. Had I bought a screen with a frame, all I would've needed to do was transplant the parts from the old frame to the new one. Not difficult at all.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
khm, expensive? IIRC nexus 5 had great hardware for it's price.
Indeed. The Nexus 5 was not expensive relative to the iOS devices he is consider getting. 3 years worth of updates was just about worth the device's price. On another note I hated the Nexus 5 and that LCD screen always felt washed out!
I liked the screen for not being overly saturated like the others! And boy was that phone fast. Every once in a while when I try my Nexus 5 it feels faster than my 6P, for some reason.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Nexus 5X has no wireless inductive charging. My nice little Yootech charger sitting on my desk is useless with my wife's 5X. Those cool "charging tables" at Starbucks and other such places are suddenly useless, as well. Also, 5X uses the USB-C connector, so you have to update all your cables and adapters on your desk and in your car. A real pain. When you're out in the world and need a charge-up, you'd better be…
Wireless charging is so much slower than wired. I played around with it with my old S4 (same launch year as the Nexus 5) via a receiver you could throw in the case. USB-C (easy connections and more reliability) plus fast charging make wireless charging seem like a quaint idea that couldn't catch on. Don't get me wrong, it'll come around eventually, but it's not really there yet. Once it's faster and a single standard…
Slower, sure? That's a given.
But being able to simply set my phone on my desk and keep it fully charged is a convenience I won't soon give up. I now buy phones with that in mind.
In theory, plugging in a cable isn't time consuming, but in practice, I only actually keep my phone charged during the day if I have a wireless charger nearby.
YMMV.
Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat
#230No Android 7 on my Nexus 5 might just be what pushes me to iOS. I've gone from being an Android evangelist to being an Android apologist ("Yeah, battery life sucks. Google has failed to fix it after X years") to now being, frankly, pissed off that my expensive phone is going to be left behind.
Unfortunately this also forces me away from the Nexus family. I just can't handle the size of the Nexus 6 - being a fairly petite female a large phone is just unwieldy. I'm not sure the phone developers ever take physical size into consideration. If anyone can recommend a small replacement phone that supports running the original Android OS instead of a OEMified mess?
The Nexus 6(p) is the phablet line. The Nexus 5(x) is a normal form factor.
I've owned both the 5 and 6, it's definitely a matter of preference. The Nexus 5x would probably be closer to what you are looking for.