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Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Ones career being affected by a political opinion is very dangerous, especially since the goal-posts are constantly being moved by the thought-police. It's understandable how political opinions can affect how we view our peers, sometimes I question how a rational person could, for example, vote for Hillary Clinton. That does not change that persons professional proficiency nor would I hinder their career in any way b…

>It's understandable how political opinions can affect how we view our peers[...] That's how it happens. Even if you try to be impartial, it's hard to give someone the same respect and give them as much of a chance after they have a differing opinion from you. Not that you shouldn't try, but it's difficult.

That's why you have to go out of your way to talk to people you don't agree with.

When you have an 'ugh' moment, you should notice this and put it to work.

Some of my most interesting conversation have come from talking to persons who completely rejected the ideas I consider to be self evident.

There are definite conflicts of interest that cannot be resolved but there are also major spheres of thought that 'the other side' does not even consider because they are orthogonal to their thinking.

Gradually I have incorporated some of the enemy's thinking into my own conception of the world. If an idea is relevant it tends to seep in without you being consciously aware of it. If you've ever read old internet posts or comments you'd have made and thought "who the fuck is that guy and how is he/she so wrong" then you get it.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Trump has an extensive history of using racism to divide people for his own benefit.

Examples? Should be pretty easy to find if it is an "extensive history"

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donal...

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1) Mexican isn't a race - it is a nationality. There are people of all races that are Mexican. 2) Curiels parents were illegal immigrants, and exactly the kind of people that Trump says he would deport. 3) Curiel has mentioned in the past (in a NYT article from the early 2000s, I can find a link if you like) that his Mexican heritage has had an impact in his practice of the law. 4) Curiel isn't a robot. Imagine if he…

I'm curious which of these points downvoters are disagreeing with. I say this as someone with family members who look very much "Mexican" to most Americans. I don't like Trump's talk at all, but how would anyone with illegal immigrant parents would have comfortable family gatherings after supporting Trump? Job or not, family is strong. Is this just an example of herd HN behavior?

Point 1: substitute "bigot" for "racist". There's a common but foolish (or self-serving) argument that X can't be racist, because Y isn't a race. A contributing factor is that many people say/write "racist" when they mean "bigot".

The point is that bigotry is no better than racism, so the reader/listener should just substitute the words and see whether the argument still makes sense rather than offering a vacuous counter-argument.

EDIT> French isn't a race, but if I want to round up French people and put them in camps, I'm still a shit-bag.

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