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Re: Crying

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Post by Smaug123 »

asymmetric wrote: post #218
Smaug123 wrote: post #217

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I don't know, but prior probabilities suggest not. Notice, however, that it is not just M2F transsexuals who have "female" hormones in their bodies. Almost everyone has them, and some people (such as females) tend to have more of them than others.

I'm intrigued by the "almost". Are there people with 0% female (or male) hormones?

I don't know, but all sorts of things can happen, and I didn't want to exclude people who somehow just have one or the other. (This is the kind of matter about which I expect not to be very knowledgeable, so I just moderate my language towards the "I don't know everything, might as well make it so I don't exclude people" end.)

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Post by Jaruzel »

jazzyk wrote: post #137
tfigueroa wrote: post #88

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Having a kid. That did it for me. I've always been an empathic person, but some chemicals changed when I had a child, and now a crappy movie trailer with the right cuts and a soaring soundtrack can get me teary.

This x 1000!. I can't believe how much my children changed me- and I am a pretty tough guy otherwise. Glad to hear I am not the only one.

Definitely Not. Me likewise. Something does change when you have kids, it's not just exclusive to the mothers, us fathers get it too.

Re: Crying

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Post by ctrlalt_g »

brador wrote: post #140
thedz wrote: post #139

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> Maybe crying is seen as an intense emotion for rare occasions so when someone seems to be crying every weekday or over trivial things it demeans the powerfulness and impact of crying. Yes, I think that's the issue. Crying should not just be for rare events or an indication of extreme emotional distress. People cry for all sorts of reasons.

Then what do you do for the rare events?

You use the level 1 or 2 crying for normal stuff and you crank it up to a 4 or 5 for the rare occasions

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Post by kpil »

ianmcgowan wrote: post #142
notduncansmith wrote: post #83

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Another guy here. I've found that as I age, I've become more emotional (and simultaneously better at dealing with it). I never cried in movies as a child/teenager, but nowadays I find myself choking up during particularly emotional moments in movies, shows, and life. Sometimes I just look at my son for a minute and the same thing happens. I try not to cry around people, even my family, but more because I'm conscious…

That's a nice theory, but it seems to be common to get emotional with age - senile lability if you want to google it. My first introduction to the term as a teenager was in Earthly Powers[1]. Didn't get it then, but as I get older (and like you after kids), I find I tear up at stories of sacrifice and generosity. [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=PsJyuYIL-_MC&pg=PT6&lpg=PT... [2] https://books.google.com/books?id…

I think there is a difference between senile decay, and the fact that when you are getting older, you have witnessed the fragility of life in ways that most teenagers luckily have not.

I think my empathy is growing as I'm getting older.

I am aware that some people just hardens up or getting more or less traumatized if they experience really traumatic events or periods and I don't think it is that useful to look at war-like events as it kind of go outside a useful scale, but in personal tragedies a lot of people people seems to go softer.

Maybe you have to learn empathy. There are many signs that says it's at least partially so.

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Post by kqr »

michael_h wrote: post #19
donatj wrote: post #13

I am a big burly guy with a beard - and I get overwhelmed and cry regularly. Not even from sadness, just from general emotion. For example last night I watched the trailer for Overwatch[1] and got so excited I started tearing up. I don't know why, anything that triggers ANY sort of strong emotion in me brings it on. Always has. My wife makes fun of me for it. I don't see anything wrong with it. [1] https://www.youtub…

I get a little choked up when I see paintings of horses. I have no other connection to horses. It's very quick and generally jumbled with thoughts of "Uhhhhh, what in the world is happening right now?"

Horses are absolutely beautiful, loving, intelligent, fragile, kind and elegant creatures, so I won't hold that against you. That said, my soft spot from horses (which I otherwise have little mental connection to) probably comes from growing up around them.

Re: Crying

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Post by kqr »

dboreham wrote: post #72
donatj wrote: post #13

I am a big burly guy with a beard - and I get overwhelmed and cry regularly. Not even from sadness, just from general emotion. For example last night I watched the trailer for Overwatch[1] and got so excited I started tearing up. I don't know why, anything that triggers ANY sort of strong emotion in me brings it on. Always has. My wife makes fun of me for it. I don't see anything wrong with it. [1] https://www.youtub…

Military jet aircraft with afterburners lit, flying at low altitude do it for me. No idea why. Perhaps something to do with attending air shows at a young age.

Oh, don't get me started on this stuff: https://youtu.be/xIoRWIgzvbM or this: https://youtu.be/aoNSBPhaDjM . I guess it's something about the combination of engineering marvels and how deadly everything is.

Re: Crying

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Post by glaberficken »

drhayes9 wrote: post #164
notduncansmith wrote: post #83

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Another guy here. I've found that as I age, I've become more emotional (and simultaneously better at dealing with it). I never cried in movies as a child/teenager, but nowadays I find myself choking up during particularly emotional moments in movies, shows, and life. Sometimes I just look at my son for a minute and the same thing happens. I try not to cry around people, even my family, but more because I'm conscious…

Having a kid did that to me, too. I've always been a bit of a crybaby, but now I kinda lose it when children-related kidnappings or deaths happen in movies or TV shows or the news. Tycho, from Penny Arcade, said it best: "When I was younger, I would have resented some of this stuff - it would have seemed ham-handed. Manipulative. I could have discern what they wanted me to feel and valiantly refused, or (if it were e…

Exactly same experience, I also became a crybaby about children related incidents after becoming a parent.

Re: Crying

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Post by djhworld »

I haven't cried for years, and I don't wear that as a badge of honour either, it's just never been a thing for me.

I've had the 'lump in the throat' moments, sure, but not breached the wall to have the dam burst in quite some time. In fact I think the last time I properly cried was when my dog was euthanised and that was 12 or so years ago. That was the first time I'd seen my Dad completely broken too.

Re: Crying

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Post by lomnakkus »

sockopen wrote: post #151
lomnakkus wrote: post #49

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Since we all seem to be in a sharing mood... Also a guy -- no beard -- but (and I'm not joking here)... I watched that exact trailer just now and teared up a little. As for movies, I have two examples: Up (pure emotion) and The Fountain -- the scene towards the end where he talks to the high priest and Clint Mansell's music takes over. For me, I think it's generally sort of really EPIC things that do it. Really huge…

[2] is less than 300KB? I appreciate warnings on terabytes.

Ah, I was thinking of pixel size, because actually displaying it requires that it be decompressed. If your machine is memory-constrained just having an image that size (decompressed) can be crippling. I remember it bringing a machine I had several years ago to a crawl for that very reason. Maybe I'm just showing my age here :).

Re: Crying

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Post by nils-m-holm »

MicroBerto wrote: post #69
donatj wrote: post #13

I am a big burly guy with a beard - and I get overwhelmed and cry regularly. Not even from sadness, just from general emotion. For example last night I watched the trailer for Overwatch[1] and got so excited I started tearing up. I don't know why, anything that triggers ANY sort of strong emotion in me brings it on. Always has. My wife makes fun of me for it. I don't see anything wrong with it. [1] https://www.youtub…

I have found that emotional stoicism elicits are far greater response in nearly all people. Emotional people are unpredictable, and unpredictability is a turn-off for most rational and stable people (who I like to surround myself with). Depending on your goals in life, being "the rock" typically gets you better long-term social results.

The "depending on your goals in life" part is important I'd say! I, personally, find "the rock" types pretty creepy, because life is about emotional connection to me, and that's the one think I'll never get from them. :(

If, by "social results", you mean "well-connected" or "successful", then I agree.

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