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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by taude »

coredog64 wrote: post #204
dubdubbub wrote: post #172

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> Atom was knocked out in the first minute. 'knocked out'? > must install a column mode extension, need to install a ntlm proxy authentication downloaded from (argh!) Sourceforge Why not just set up atom to use your existing corporate proxy? > failed to install the extension because it needs a compiler Sounds like bullshit, what extension? > You've got a new fan VSCode! So all of your complaints about atom are actual…

I have admin and can install anything locally, but also I can't get any Atom packages to install from behind our proxy. That's okay -- I just wait until I have my laptop on my WiFi network at home and everything is copacetic. It's not just me -- we had a trainer giving a class, & this guy lived and breathed Atom and he couldn't install an updated version of an existing package from our network either. His solution wa…

I have the same problem with the Atom packages behind the proxy. I had to do some npm and git configuration to add http_proxy. It worked for a bit, then the corporate password changed, and I never really updated the buried settings.

I'll probably have a pretty easy time getting the MSFT Visual Studio Code approved for machine installation for devs on my team, even though we're an Eclipse/Java shop. I've been trying to get everyone normalized on a JavaScript editor, since the tools we have in Eclipse are severely lacking.

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Post by Ace17 »

ngrilly wrote: post #197
dubdubbub wrote: post #179

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> I can safely say that Microsoft tools are Developers friendly most of the time You only think that because you have used it and became accustomed to vstudio. As someone who has used vstudio, eclipse, atom, intellij, vim, emacs - I can safely say that vim and emacs are far more 'developer-friendly' than the others.

Why?

Because the low-level modularity of Vim and Emacs gives you more control, by letting you choose the combination of tools you use ; instead of tying together the language(s), the compiler, the tag/completion engine, the build/project system, the debugger, the profiler, like many IDEs do.

The sole concept of IDEs specialized for one language makes me cringe.

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Post by [deleted] »

grayrest wrote: post #65
slammers wrote: post #27

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Hello - one of the team members from VS Code here. We built this extension sample to show the capabilities of the extension API - https://github.com/alexandrudima/vscode-vim . We've done some work to improve the API for the extensions. We'd love your feedback. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/3600 .

The issue with Vim is that the editor has several hundred/thousand idioms and everybody uses a different subset. As an example, most people delete words with `dw` while I usually use `dt ` because the t/f motions generalize to subwords. Until you have the majority of your personal subset implemented, vim support in a given editor is "bad". I've thought about doing a vim implementation for years where motions are expr…

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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by kensai »

Visual Studio Code has been a very pleasant surprise indeed. Fast and simple. Not everyone needs a powerful IDE, especially when learning.

I have been using it a lot lately to write snippets of code in C or HTML.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by miguelrochefort »

I'm a bit confused by people's praise of VS Code. Are people really writing software with anything less featured than that?

As someone who uses Visual Studio for everything, I have a hard time understanding how people can get anything done in Atom/Sublime/Notepad++/etc.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by spdionis »

noir_lord wrote: post #206
akio wrote: post #114

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Noticeably missing from your list: IntelliJ and JetBrains's family of IDEs. I understand that VSCode has changed coding for you. But how has it changed anything for the 92.8%[0] of developers that don't use VSCode? [0] http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#tech...

Intellij is an absolute beast of an IDE (in both senses, it's amazing and huge). I haven't loved working with a tool so much since Delphi 6, it has plugins for everything I want to do, they work really well, I can have a project open and use multiple languages seamlessly, it's extremely customisable. It's right up there with Linux in my "tools I wouldn't want to live without" category. That said as a lightweight alte…

The only bad part about Jetbrains is that no matter how much i've tried i can't use a text editor without feeling crippled.

A big factor is probably that I started programming using Jetbrains tools (except some c++ in codeblocks before that). It's so awesome everything else just sucks.

The problem is when i want to try some language that is not well supported by IntelliJ. No matter how cool the language is i get frustrated by editors like sublime/atom/emacs.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

atonse wrote: post #86
grayrest wrote: post #65

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The issue with Vim is that the editor has several hundred/thousand idioms and everybody uses a different subset. As an example, most people delete words with `dw` while I usually use `dt ` because the t/f motions generalize to subwords. Until you have the majority of your personal subset implemented, vim support in a given editor is "bad". I've thought about doing a vim implementation for years where motions are expr…

So essentially, I think vim-mode in atom actually uses NeoVim's headless VIM engine, which is why it's more full featured. But don't quote me on that :) The ideal VIM mode plugin for VS Code would do the same.

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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by aldanor »

crispyambulance wrote: post #149
coryrc wrote: post #141

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Why spend a few hours over the course of 60000+ working hours to learn how to use more effective tools?

"a few hours" ??? Come on, let's not pretend that EMACS is going to take "a few hours" to come to terms with and become more productive in than an IDE.

I switched to Emacs (Spacemacs) from Sublime Text with zero prior knowledge of vim or Emacs. In a day or two I could continue doing what I was normally doing. In a few weeks I felt completely comfortable.
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