AlphaGo beats the world champion Lee Sedol in first of five matches

Post by aurelianito » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 11:43 AM UTC

kqr wrote: post #192

exDM69 wrote: post #179

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Many Go players suggest starting with Atari Go (aka Capture Go). It has the same rules as Go, but the starting position is predetermined and the winner is the player to capture the first stone. You only need to play a few rounds of Atari Go, say 30 minutes to an hour to get a grasp of the capturing rules and then you can move to a 9x9 or 13x13. I'd go straight for the 13x13 because it's not that much bigger but it ha…

The drawback with Capture Go is that it emphasises the capturing part perhaps a bit too much. I prefer introducing players to a variant with the same rules as capture go, except the winning condition is "having the most pieces on the board". This is essentially the same thing as regular go, but without all the fuffing about with learning scoring and such. When played on a small enough board, the games take about as l…

Post by aurelianito » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 11:43 AM UTC

kqr wrote: post #192

exDM69 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many Go players suggest starting with Atari Go (aka Capture Go). It has the same rules as Go, but the starting position is predetermined and the winner is the player to capture the first stone. You only need to play a few rounds of Atari Go, say 30 minutes to an hour to get a grasp of the capturing rules and then you can move to a 9x9 or 13x13. I'd go straight for the 13x13 because it's not that much bigger but it ha…

The drawback with Capture Go is that it emphasises the capturing part perhaps a bit too much. I prefer introducing players to a variant with the same rules as capture go, except the winning condition is "having the most pieces on the board". This is essentially the same thing as regular go, but without all the fuffing about with learning scoring and such. When played on a small enough board, the games take about as l…

Post by oneeyedpigeon » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 11:43 AM UTC

singhrac wrote: post #6

GraffitiTim wrote: post #2

A historic moment here, folks. Incredible, and in my opinion a little terrifying.

Not that terrifying? It's a very special purpose-built tool. We'll still always have Calvinball! https://xkcd.com/1002/

Post by exDM69 » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 11:44 AM UTC

kqr wrote: post #192

exDM69 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many Go players suggest starting with Atari Go (aka Capture Go). It has the same rules as Go, but the starting position is predetermined and the winner is the player to capture the first stone. You only need to play a few rounds of Atari Go, say 30 minutes to an hour to get a grasp of the capturing rules and then you can move to a 9x9 or 13x13. I'd go straight for the 13x13 because it's not that much bigger but it ha…

The drawback with Capture Go is that it emphasises the capturing part perhaps a bit too much. I prefer introducing players to a variant with the same rules as capture go, except the winning condition is "having the most pieces on the board". This is essentially the same thing as regular go, but without all the fuffing about with learning scoring and such. When played on a small enough board, the games take about as l…

Post by nsns » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 11:45 AM UTC

eru wrote: post #178

nsns wrote: post #98

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...it was the last stand of homo sapiens in the man vs machine... But who made that machine? I'd say a more precise evaluation would be that the ability to program a machine to assist in playing chess outdid the ability to play chess without such assistance.

Your point is entirely valid, but was already made by the very comment you are replying too..