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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by Mz »

peter303 wrote: post #22

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

I am a woman. I married "down". I also married a man shorter than me, something I don't advertise much because men who are shorter than average tend to have enormous amounts of baggage and I don't want every short man on the planet thinking I am the solution to their problem. In many cases, I do not want to get involved with them because they are assholes, not because of their height.

As a woman who defies two really common stereotypes here, I will suggest that most women are as bad about wanting men who are tall and moneyed as men are typically bad about wanting someone younger and hot looking. And, hey, those two types go well together. They don't make for the kind of relationship I want, but women aren't all saints who marry for "love" with zero conditions or whatever the hell. Most women are just as biased about who they date as men are, they just have different biases than men have.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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kevincrane wrote: post #218
MicroBerto wrote: post #190

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Of course you'll find some males that "marry up", but the data proves what many of us have known forever - as a man, you should strive to be elite in something , preferably something useful and sexually attractive. Otherwise you're just another brick in the wall. Where this is all going to blow up in society is the fact that women are now better-educated, and will soon make more money than their male counterparts, wh…

> A country needs strong, highly-engaged men who act as leaders. America is losing that more each and every day, and it saddens me. Literally every president in US history has been a man, 80.6% of Congress are men, 95.5% of Fortune 500 CEOs are men, and you're sad that it's getting marginally harder for men and that the country is lacking in strong male leaders?

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by balls187 »

colmvp wrote: post #205
MicroBerto wrote: post #190

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Of course you'll find some males that "marry up", but the data proves what many of us have known forever - as a man, you should strive to be elite in something , preferably something useful and sexually attractive. Otherwise you're just another brick in the wall. Where this is all going to blow up in society is the fact that women are now better-educated, and will soon make more money than their male counterparts, wh…

Regarding your point about black women: At least in North America, Black females, like Asian men, have a harder time in the dating scene partially due to their gender/ethnicity combination. Both sets endure media representation and stereotypes that play against their sexual desirability. I'm sure people here will profess that they are immune to any images cultivated by the media and I'm not going to discount their ex…

> ...in North America, Black females, like Asian men, have a harder time in the dating scene

data to back this up: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by EGreg »

galfarragem wrote: post #220
balls187 wrote: post #141

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> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

In marriage intelligence is more important than status . Men normally don't want to marry a smarter woman then them and the opposite on women. 1600 karma gives you some relationship potential and places you above trash..

Height for men is like weight for women. Women want taller and men want lighter.

Money for men is like looks for women. Men want a wife with good looks and women want a successful man.

Intelligence for men is like likability for women. I think there are a lot of parallels.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by sridca »

vinceguidry wrote: post #142
NTDF9 wrote: post #92

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Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

I have a better explanation. She was talking about the kinds of stuff she was into, and didn't sense that you were into the same things. Then when you said you did do stuff like that, she was interested because you had more in common. She didn't have an ego, you did. If you didn't, you guys could have talked all about the particulars of the stories she was telling, interspersing with similar tales from your adventure…

> She didn't have an ego, you did.

Why do you defend her?

She was clearly being stereotypical of computer programmers; in her own words - "Tell me something about yourself...what adventures have you done? Or do you just do some programming stuff" (the keyword here is "just" ... as if computer programming is not an adventure).

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by Mz »

EGreg wrote: post #226
galfarragem wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In marriage intelligence is more important than status . Men normally don't want to marry a smarter woman then them and the opposite on women. 1600 karma gives you some relationship potential and places you above trash..

Height for men is like weight for women. Women want taller and men want lighter. Money for men is like looks for women. Men want a wife with good looks and women want a successful man. Intelligence for men is like likability for women. I think there are a lot of parallels.

Height for men is like weight for women. Women want taller and men want lighter.

No no no no no. Height for men is like age for women. A woman can lose weight if she wants a particular man, but, just like men cannot make themselves taller, women cannot make themselves younger.

Also, some men like a BBW. I suspect this is much more common than women who actively prefer short men. (I have been a BBW. Some men really, really like that.)

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by scrupulusalbion »

colmvp wrote: post #135
afinlayson wrote: post #13

I guess I should stop using Tinder/OkCupid, and start going to teacher meetings

I used CoffeeMeetsBagel. Nearly every women I'm matched up either has a Masters, PhD, Law Degree, or Med Degree. Too bad none of my statistical positives (wealth in real estate, part ownership of a successful startup) show up in my profile. Wouldn't be surprised if they balked at my lowly Bachelor's degree. I say this as a person who met a woman who said she basically doesn't date anyone who has anything less than a…

> I say this as a person who met a woman who said she basically doesn't date anyone who has anything less than a Master's degree.

At first, I thought that is petty. However, such bluntness is helpful to you; you get to very quickly (i.e. never date) select against a potentially improper partner. Supposing you have a Bachelor's, would you want to date a woman who only dated men with a Bachelor's degree or higher?

My first guess is that she is avoiding sub-Master's degreed men as a means to avoid boring, wealthy, and/or immature men. My second guess is that she might be trying to use a simple criterion to select among a relatively high volume of date offers.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by stared »

casca wrote: post #57

If anyone wants to improve the usability, data files are: http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/job-... http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/pair...

If I get some time tomorrow, I will try to do a network visualization - a coincidence graph (like this one http://p.migdal.pl/tagoverflow/) or something in the line for word2vec (job2vec? ;)).
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