We need a decentralized (federated) system to store our source repositories.
Exactly
GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
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Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#222> With plenty of competitors, including Atlassian, GitLab, and even Google, one thing is certain: If GitHub does stumble, there are plenty of companies that want to pick up its slack. Atlassian? Oh god. Their software might be ideal for corporate beancounters and expensive consultants, but for everyone else it's a nightmare. GitLab? A pile of memory leaks and other weirdness. Google? Not so much, I highly doubt they'…
They aren't talking Google Code. If you read the linked article, they are talking a new thing Google "Cloud Source Repositories".
https://cloud.google.com/source-repositories/
Haven't had a change to review it yet but seems to be they retired Google Code in preparation for this, not because they were acquiescing the market to Github.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#223> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.
This kind of anti-white, anti-male racism is poisoning Silicon Valley. Honest, meritocratic people can't idly stand by while self-serving idiot racists take over. I'm now cancelling my GitHub account and moving to BitBucket.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have an arrest record? If not: there's the magic power. Statistically speaking, a poor young black male is much more likely to have an arrest record than a poor young white male. Edit: holy batman the downvotes. I never considered the possibility that maybe #hnwatch is right.
> Do you have an arrest record? If not: there's the magic power. Statistically speaking, a poor young black male is much more likely to have an arrest record than a poor young white male. > Edit: holy batman the downvotes. I never considered the possibility that maybe #hnwatch is right. Its unfortunate that you are being downvoted without comment. The downvotes may or may not be evidence that #hnwatch is correct, it…
The mistake of sociological studies labeling a concept called white privilege was when people started using it to villify others for the negative space of discrimination they didn't receive.
IDK why, but people tend to not like being blamed for things they didn't do.
If that's not the mesaage we're supposed to take out of the concept, them somebody has got a lot of work to do to figure out a better way of communicating it. Someone who is not me, because I'm a programmer, just trying to take care of my own family, not a sociologist.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For a long time it was dominated by white women who wanted more equality ignoring and sometimes even opposing equality for people and women of color Some of the early suffragettes - including the first female senator in the US[0] - were not just racist, but outright white supremacists. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Latimer_Felton#Racial_...
She might've been racist as fuck, but I seriously do not get how she could be declared as "one of the biggest barriers to progress". She wasn't even allowed to vote, god damnit. It's completely incoherent. If the power is overwhelmingly in the hands of straight white man, than straight white women very unlikely to become not some of the biggest "barriers to progress."
White women make progress towards equality faster than any other group that's being discriminated.
The argument is that instead of focusing on the core issue that discrimination is inherently bad and needs to be fought against, white women put the focus specifically on them. This means other groups are ignored until white women have achieved their goals until a new conversation can be started.
I'm not sure whether other groups would have made progress sooner without this problem but it's a possiblity and that would make white women significant barrier.
I admit it's hard to go from that further to biggest barrier but I don't think one should discard that notion too easily. "Moderates" pushing for some bad compromise is the worse is better of politics. MLK famously considered white moderates to be a bigger issue than racist groups at one point.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if you even need to see the whole presentation. A few of the full sentences on that one slide are more than enough to project a strong us vs them attitude of hatred and victim versus oppressor, especially the following bullets: - "This is not work for white folks to lead" - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" - "we need solidarity with our Asian friends and colleagues" This is blat…
- "This is not work for white folks to lead" Well, it's not. It's kind of missing the point if your diversity initiative is being run by white people. - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" Second wave feminism, largely led by white women, often leaves out women of color. I mentioned this below, but the publishing industry is 79% white and 78% female. This has a huge impact on the types of stori…
>>It's kind of missing the point if your diversity initiative is being run by white people.
How can anybody who advocates equality say no white person can lead a diversity movement? Just because somebody is white doesn't mean they aren't an oppressed minority (female, transgender, Jewish or some other oppressed group like a furry).
I think we collectively need to declare it's not okay to say "people with skin color ____" cannot possibly understand Y or have an opinion on Y. To do so is institutionalized racism.
edit: typo
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if you even need to see the whole presentation. A few of the full sentences on that one slide are more than enough to project a strong us vs them attitude of hatred and victim versus oppressor, especially the following bullets: - "This is not work for white folks to lead" - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" - "we need solidarity with our Asian friends and colleagues" This is blat…
- "This is not work for white folks to lead" Well, it's not. It's kind of missing the point if your diversity initiative is being run by white people. - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" Second wave feminism, largely led by white women, often leaves out women of color. I mentioned this below, but the publishing industry is 79% white and 78% female. This has a huge impact on the types of stori…
> but the publishing industry is 79% white and 78% female
The US is 77.7% of the US population. I hardly think that a 2% imbalance is an issue to create divisiveness over. [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_State...
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#228> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.
I searched for that tweet [1] and I think the context makes it different. He doesn't talk about management directly, but about healthcare as a remedy to avoid people getting fired and then losing health, housing or similar things.
The article put that tweet in a context where it could be interpreted as "white males in Github are bad, let's fire them" and I think he says something completely different.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
GitHub has, since the Horvath incident, made it pretty clear what kind of person they want to hire. And, frankly, that's fine. There are plenty of places where I, as a competent white male, can get hired and promoted without difficulty. The fact that Github isn't one of those is not a systematic problem. More power to them.
At what point does it become a systemic problem, though? Github is a major software company, and there are similar signs at other major companies, most of whom are starting down a similar path.
If Github wants to pass on solid talent just because of that person's race or sex, that's their (foolish) decision. It's a seller's market, and that talent will go elsewhere.
Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually Gitlab could be a replacement, I use it with 10 dev team + customers and we have absolutely no problem.
We tried to switch. After few days devs make a note on the table "X days without GitLab being down". X always was < 2.
Do you use gitlab.com or you own instance ?
We use our own instance since 2 years (60+ users, 200+ repo) and the only down time is for update